Haggis
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Petamocto said:Civilians have shot military weapons on many occasions in the CF, from family days to whatever else. Like anything else, it just involves someone singing a waiver.
Umm....probably not. Maybe my time in Gagetown had me thining it was a kinda redneck part of the country (must've been all the pickup trucks).Petamocto said:Do you think we are going to let people off the bus and give them a fully loaded rifle with no instruction?
Petamocto said:This is not me having a lightbulb going off in my head here, this is the Small Arms Cell using a working group in order to identify ways we can get non-qualified people to learn drills. We can't exactly just bring the janitors out (not trust worthy), and we can't ask DND civilians who work there (not in their contract), and we can't use Reserve units (they have weapons training).
My point about P Res PAT members is that they are freshly sworn in, wear a uniform and are awaiting their P Res BMQ. Ergo, a perfect unbiased, unskilled PTA. Nowhere did I advocate using P Res members who have had small arms training.
Petamocto said:Family members are the perfect target audience because they are a blank slate (unbias), and at least to some extent they can be vouched-for credibility wise. They are going to get plenty of instruction and coaching both before and during any shooting. I have a platoon's worth of Small Arms instructors who teach the course for a living, so I have faith in them that they can coach monkeys as ARSOs, let alone my wife or an MWO's 18 year old son.
Agreed, but not supported (from my perspective). The PAT soldiers, in my opinion, have a vested interest in the success of the project and can be treated exactly the same as a real-live BMQ candidate. (I'm sure you can imagine what would happen to you if one of your instructors lost focus, even for a split second, and jacked up your wife!)
I have no doubts about the abilites of the SA Cell at the Inf School. However, I don't think we should be teaching monkeys to shoot.