Towards_the_gap
Sr. Member
- Reaction score
- 3
- Points
- 230
Ok here's my 2c, having attempted to post a nice long rant a while back but loosing it due to crappy computer.
Reg force Engr MCpl, 2 years at a CER, prior to that 6 1/2 years British Army, Royal Engineers
First taught all TOETs for SA80A1, then A2, then converted as such to C7 upon transfer.
Firstly, the ''PAM'' TOETs for both weapon systems are identical. Only difference I noted was that with the SA80, the right hand remains on the pistol grip. This means an awkward movement for pulling the working parts to the rear, however it also means the weapon (and muzzle) remains under positive control, which is something I think needs to be introduced to the C7.
I agree with both the two last posters, in that the pam drills are an excellent basis for understanding the weapon, and that gunfighter drills are much better when the range is two way.
A good compromise for both camps, if it is possible, is to merge the two drills into one 'super-drill'. For example
Primary IA
weapon fails to fire - tap rack and go
Weapons still fails to fire - secondary IA
Secondary IA - cant weapon to left, look at position of bolt ...and then go into the normal drills.
Myself personally, being an experienced user of the C7 and the SA80, I can generally tell what kind of stoppage I have from the feel of the recoil, or rather the recoil from the bolt returning to the closed position, but out of muscle memory/habit do cast a quick glance at the bolt as I change mags.
Reg force Engr MCpl, 2 years at a CER, prior to that 6 1/2 years British Army, Royal Engineers
First taught all TOETs for SA80A1, then A2, then converted as such to C7 upon transfer.
Firstly, the ''PAM'' TOETs for both weapon systems are identical. Only difference I noted was that with the SA80, the right hand remains on the pistol grip. This means an awkward movement for pulling the working parts to the rear, however it also means the weapon (and muzzle) remains under positive control, which is something I think needs to be introduced to the C7.
I agree with both the two last posters, in that the pam drills are an excellent basis for understanding the weapon, and that gunfighter drills are much better when the range is two way.
A good compromise for both camps, if it is possible, is to merge the two drills into one 'super-drill'. For example
Primary IA
weapon fails to fire - tap rack and go
Weapons still fails to fire - secondary IA
Secondary IA - cant weapon to left, look at position of bolt ...and then go into the normal drills.
Myself personally, being an experienced user of the C7 and the SA80, I can generally tell what kind of stoppage I have from the feel of the recoil, or rather the recoil from the bolt returning to the closed position, but out of muscle memory/habit do cast a quick glance at the bolt as I change mags.