CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]

[justmyalias]

^
That's not really answering the question, but I guess the impression is...nobody knows?

If I may try again, whatever has been accomplished thus far, could this initiative still get shut down, or is it a formality of meeting qualified pers percentage now? (Okay, I'll say it...'in an ideal world' hehe-I guess ultimately ANYTHING could get shut down for whatever reasons right?)

 

[medicineman]

Actually it is answering the question - it's just not the answer you want to hear.  The people that are in the know aren't telling anyone anything until it's certain one way or the other.  This issue has been ongoing since I got in 22+ years ago and sometime before that even.  It's not something that's likely going to happen even in the one year since that message came out from the Branch Chief.  This could be shut down in a heart beat and they'd have to start all over again like they do every year - all depends on whether all the "I's" are dotted, "T's" crossed and there are pennies in the piggy bank...and even then, the TB may come up with some new criteria they have to prove to them that the trade is deserving of spec pay. 

To reiterate - you'll know when the rest of us know.

MM

 

[justmyalias]

... The people that are in the know aren't telling anyone anything until it's certain one way or the other.  This issue has been ongoing since I got in 22+ years ago and sometime before that even.  It's not something that's likely going to happen even in the one year since that message came out from the Branch Chief.  This could be shut down in a heart beat and they'd have to start all over again like they do every year - all depends on whether all the "I's" are dotted, "T's" crossed and there are pennies in the piggy bank...and even then, the TB may come up with some new criteria they have to prove to them that the trade is deserving of spec pay.......

ahhh., now that answers it beautifully.  Thank you so much.

I got this impression essentially from all the 'seasoned' folk.  The younger mbrs seem understandably a little more bedazzled that it's a surething as of now...22year eh...ouch.  Would it be fair to say that with what you've said in mind however, that currently it's progressed as close to it has ever before?

Kindly,

 

[militaryNick1234]

Is there spec pay currently for Naval communications?

 

[hugh19]

Nope, and they complain about it. iper:

 

[Occam]

It's been evaluated several times over the years, and the answer has always been no.  Personally, I don't see that changing anytime soon.

 

[Navalsnpr]

If you are interested in Communications, have you thought about NET (C) MOSID 00117? This MOC is a SPEC trade.

 

[Sub_Guy]

Nope, and they complain about it. iper:

Can't say I blame those who complain, IMHO, the only ones complaining should be the ones who were in before the Ops room got their spec pay.

It bothers me when I hear some new guy complaining about how the Navcomm's don't get Spec pay. 

 

[chrisf]

Here's the test for spec pay....

Can this person quit tommorow and find a job making a barrel more civi side with only his military training?

If yes, then ask the next question.

Does the military give a damn if they (Collectively referring to that trade) go?

If yes, then spec pay is awarded.

Realistically has very little to do with "specialization".

 

[PuckChaser]

There's quite a bit more to it than that, a lot has to do with training days required to qualify someone.

 

[Navalsnpr]

There is a lot involved and there is a lengthy thread (Specialist [Spec] Pay Superthread- All Trades- Merged) in the Military Administration section.

Normally most trades undergo a review every 5 years or when there is major re-structuring of the trade. Quite a lengthly process from my understanding speaking with my MOC Manager.

 

[diveguy]

The Most recent answer on this is that the trade requires 325 Med Techs to be AEC Qualified, the last count sent from Branch and the CM to our unit was that we are sitting at about 210 Med Techs qualified.

It is up to the members to push to go on the AEC course and the units to support, I know with Op Tempo and all this can be difficult but this will be a good move for the trade

 

[Armymedic]

Yeah, numbers are climbing. The Chief previously thought the trade would be good to go for this Apr, but now he is thinking the trade should hit its numbers around end year.

 

[Shacoon]

Hi there,
I searched the website for an answer, couldnt find it, so here it is:

Im currently in the Canadian Forces (Army) and my contract is up in a year. I am having second thoughts on resigning. I like the trade but not enough to stay in for 25 years. Im posted in Edmonton, which is fairly close to my home town of Vancouver. I would like to find a different CF trade that is either closer to home (Esquimalt), or a trade where I am actually working towards something more positive and useful (Sorry to all who think being an armoured crewman is a great trade).

Problem:
The recruiting website does not have spec pay jobs posted on their website, which is what is probably gonna drive my OT the most, and calling the recruitment centre as a CF member just gets me redirected to my VPSO (who I will talk to after my field ex).

I am hoping to get an answer from you guys about what trades have spec pay in any element, and if there is any Navy trades out there that you can only have in BC.

I just think theres more to the CF than sweeping floors every day.

Thanks for your time

 

[motox]

This info is already on the site, but  I am unable to link to the thread right now.  Info is from 2005.

From a post by garb811:

Spec 1

Aerospace Control Operator - Radar Control
Aircraft Structures Technician
Airborne Electronic Sensor Operator
Aerospace Telecommunications & Information Systems Technician
Aerospace Telecommunications & Information Systems Technician
Aviation Systems Technician
Biomedical Electronics Technologist
Clearance Diver
Communications Research
Electrical Technician
Fire Control Systems Technician
Flight Engineer - Junior
Geomatics Technician
Hull Technician
Helicopter Shipborne Sensor Operations
Land Communications & Information Systems Technician
Marine Engineering Technician
Medical Technician - AEROMED
Medical Technician - OR
Medical Technician - PA
Medical Technician - Preventive Medicine
Medical Laboratory Technologist
Military Police
Maritime Patrol Sensor Operator
Medical Radiation technologist
Naval Combat Information Operator
Non Destructive Testing Technologist - Junior
Naval Electronics Technician (Acoustic)
Naval Electronics Technician (Communications)
Naval Electronics Technician      ( Manager)
Naval Electronics Technician (Tactical)
Naval Electronic Sensor Operator
Naval Weapons Technician
Tactical Acoustic Sensor Operator

Spec 2

Flight Engineer
Marine Engineering Artificer
Non Destructive Testing Technologist
Search and Rescue Technician

 

[motox]

http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dgcb-dgras/ps/je-ee/faq/otguao-mjgpmga-eng.asp

 

[blacktriangle]

Yeah that list looks accurate. Keep in mind there's a few of those listed that are essentially sub-specialties of trades, in which you already have to be in that trade before you can go for the training that will eventually get you spec pay (and even that some trades only grant spec at particular ranks) Hopefully someone with more info can chime in, but that's just an FYI. Oh, and a few of the trades in there E.g. LCIS tech (and now even NET and NWT?) are undergoing transformations as a part of trade amalgamations. So who knows exactly how it will turn out...

 

[Shacoon]

Thanks for all the quick replies they're all very helpful, please keep em coming.
Does anyone know if (any) of the trades posted are given in Esquimalt only?

thanks again.

p.s. that link is from 2008

 

[aesop081]

Does anyone know if (any) of the trades posted are given in Esquimalt only?

and if there is any Navy trades out there that you can only have in BC.

None of them.

 

[aesop081]

Helicopter Shipborne Sensor Operations
Maritime Patrol Sensor Operator

These 2 trades do not exist in the regular force. They are Pres divisions of AES Op.