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CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]

If you want to find out, just go to the forces.ca webpage, login to the chat that happens every day and talk to the recruiter. They can tell you what you want to know :)
 
Ex-Dragoon said:
Just a clarification on the part I bolded....you mean to tell me you never looked at a payguide at all to see what other ranks made?

Of course I have.  Reread your bolded in my post.  The word "Why" was used. Answer me this - "Why" are there only 4 increments in the Cpl rank and not 10? No, i'm not trying to be argumentative, just trying to prove a point.  I know "what" we get paid and I know the "structure" but what i'm saying is that I don't know "why" there are 3 increments in the MCpl rank / appointment...
 
Some trades have other hitches. For PMed, as an example, you have to have your 6A and your Sgts to get the spec. Therefore you are MCpl 6A...No spec, you are Sgt 5B.... No spec.
 
Sgt 5B would be A/L Sgt right?  ;)

The best thing to do is look at the MOC Active List spreadsheet avail thru the very first link, which you must have access to the IntraNet (DIN or DWAN access or whatever you prefer to call it) to be able to get to.
 
Thats a mute point to the argument, 6A Masters still don't get the pay. IMHO for some trades it should be linked to QL level and not rank+trade level.
 
What is a 5B Sgt then?   ;D  You could have said "Sgt, substantive".

Most of them link to rank and qual level.  You won't see an LCIS Tech or ATIS Tech Pte with his journeymen's getting spec pay either, has to be a Cpl w/QL5.  (Cpl, substantive).

Others, like AES Op, you have to have your QL5 and your MCpls to get spec pay.  MPs, you get your Cpls right out of CFLRS, and your spec pay after you complete the 3s course at the Academy.  I believe it is left up to each MA to determine the criteria for spec in their respective MOSIDs. 


 
Eye In The Sky said:
Others, like AES Op, you have to have your QL5 and your MCpls to get spec pay.  

MCpl and MOAT/OTU qualified now to get paid in the specialist one category.
 
CDN Aviator said:
MCpl and MOAT/OTU qualified now to get paid in the specialist one category.

Seen.  I assumed (and just kicked myself for that) that you had to be complete trng (MOAT or OTU) to be promoted to MCpl.
 
Eye In The Sky said:
Seen.  I assumed (and just kicked myself for that) that you had to be complete trng (MOAT or OTU) to be promoted to MCpl.

No to take this further off track but....

AES Op promotion to MCpl comes 12 months after the date of graduation from BAC wether or not one has completed MOAT/OTU.
 
Found this on the internet, thought it could help some people that we're looking at this post

http://www.dnd.ca/hr/cfpn/Engraph/7_06/7_06_dgcb_spec-pay_e.asp
 
Currently firefighter in the cf, new to the trade and heard plenty of rumours of firefighters recieving spec pay in the near future.. can anyone shed any light on this for me?
 
currently a firefighter and wondering the status of firefighter spec pay?
 
I went and took a look at the Spec pay sheet. I understand that as an AVS/AVN we do receive spec 1. Now the question is, under "Quals" it says Q5LA. What exactly is that?

So I take it, its not true being a Corporal, you don't receive Spec pay 1 immediately?

Can someone explain to me how quickly it would take for someone to come out of civie college and into AVS to get spec pay.

thanks!
 
You must be CPL QL5A to be paid according to the specialist 1 pay group.
 
CDN Aviator said:
You must be CPL QL5A to be paid according to the specialist 1 pay group.

Is QL5A an equivalent to a civilian license? Could you tell me how quickly it would take to get there and finish?
 
yoeun said:
Is QL5A an equivalent to a civilian license? Could you tell me how quickly it would take to get there and finish?

I have no idea as i am not a tecnician.
 
yoeun said:
Is QL5A an equivalent to a civilian license? Could you tell me how quickly it would take to get there and finish?

It is not the same as a civilian license.  It is generally granted at the completion of apprenticeship training following your QL3 course.

Most techs have their QL5A completed before they are promoted to Cpl, so your spec pay will kick in as you get your Cpls.  Timing really depends on the fleet.
 
If you look at the pay tables you will see that a private does not receive spec pay... There is a "-" in the box. So Cpls and quals to get spec pay.
 
Who said anything about Ptes getting spec pay?  He just wants to know what QL5A means and how long to get it.
 
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