It’s obvious what her priorities are.
So not country first.
Which is the wrong approach when faced with national threats.
Like I said. Looks like damage control on her part.
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Like I said. Looks like damage control on her part.
The WSJ article seems to indicate that some of his more competent economic advisers’ advice to him vs the tariff hawks advice may have worked and he will not impose tariffs. We’ll see.
Pulling this one from Border Integrity over to the Tariff thread:
LCBO doesn’t sell much American origin beer, but they sell about $860 million a year in U.S. origin wine and spirits. Likely heavily concentrated in a modest number of producing companies, and a modest number of geographical areas.
LCBO doesn’t sell much American origin beer, but they sell about $860 million a year in U.S. origin wine and spirits. Likely heavily concentrated in a modest number of producing companies, and a modest number of geographical areas.
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is that the actual responsibility of a Premier?
the auto industry is at a minimum the same as the oil industry. Are you comparing provincial % to national%
cant one be anti smith and pro O&G?
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A quick-and-dirty Google-fu says automotive pumped ~$14B into Canada's economy in 2023, while "Oil and Gas Extraction sub-industry accounted for $71.4 billion" in 2023. Sources say AB's responsible for ~ 1/2 of the total GDP contribution.
In a nuanced world, yes. In a "if you're not with us, you're against us" world, it depends on who your "us" is
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It seems your lived experience is far different from mine and my friends and associates.
There is a reason AB's population growth has been booming.
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i think that represents an expanding oil and collapsing auto sectorA quick-and-dirty Google-fu says automotive pumped ~$14B into Canada's economy in 2023, while "Oil and Gas Extraction sub-industry accounted for $71.4 billion" in 2023. Sources say AB's responsible for ~ 1/2 of the total GDP contribution.
In a nuanced world, yes. In a "if you're not with us, you're against us" world, it depends on who your "us" is
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still seems strange to suggest that the solution to the trade imbalance is to push for more trade imbalance
what is the oil discount?
what is the benefit of switching Energy East from NG to oil?
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If Ford is proposing to block sales of US liquor, he's receiving idiotic advice. There is a huge world market for alcoholic beverages, and increasing prosperity is one of the reasons products you might like occasionally disappear from your local stores - someone, somewhere else, is willing to buy, and all that is needed is a sea-can routed somewhere else. Futile small gestures are a "tell" of people bereft of useful ideas, or unwilling to accept real political damage. The attraction is obvious: the appearance of doing something without the downside risk of tackling something of importance, like commodity exports or the Auto Pact.
Every proposal to punish US exporters - especially relatively small ones, of products not low in the value-add of any supply chain - is going to work the same way as threats to our exporters: they will be encouraged to seek markets elsewhere, and some of those relationships will become permanent and you will permanently lose access to products. This is especially true when they don't need multi-year infrastructure projects to establish new delivery routes.
Those who are serious about fighting their "economic war" ought to be aiming at commodities that are at the bottom of the chain, to maximize disruption. The whole point is disruption. Pin-prick economic commando raids are not the aim to be chasing when you need to win the Battle of the Atlantic.
The pause in the threat is amusing. It yanks the rugs out from all those using it to politick for leadership and generally distract attention away from their own long-term economic failures and gives everyone time to re-think all the ways in which we self-sabotage economic prosperity. The foreign "other" is less imminent.
Calm down, stop bleating "war, war, war", and think about removing internal impediments, which we should do anyways. Then when the threat finally dissipates, things will be even better.
Every proposal to punish US exporters - especially relatively small ones, of products not low in the value-add of any supply chain - is going to work the same way as threats to our exporters: they will be encouraged to seek markets elsewhere, and some of those relationships will become permanent and you will permanently lose access to products. This is especially true when they don't need multi-year infrastructure projects to establish new delivery routes.
Those who are serious about fighting their "economic war" ought to be aiming at commodities that are at the bottom of the chain, to maximize disruption. The whole point is disruption. Pin-prick economic commando raids are not the aim to be chasing when you need to win the Battle of the Atlantic.
The pause in the threat is amusing. It yanks the rugs out from all those using it to politick for leadership and generally distract attention away from their own long-term economic failures and gives everyone time to re-think all the ways in which we self-sabotage economic prosperity. The foreign "other" is less imminent.
Calm down, stop bleating "war, war, war", and think about removing internal impediments, which we should do anyways. Then when the threat finally dissipates, things will be even better.
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the last time they targeted specific items from specific representatives i believe. Whether it helped or not who knows
Nah. US beer is crap.
The LCBO is if I recall correctly one of the worlds single biggest purchaser of alcohol. That will have an impact and put pressure on that specific industry if push comes to shove. All part of a whole of country approach. .
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President Donald Trump won't impose immediate tariffs on Canada: reports
Instead of calling for immediate tariffs on imported Canadian goods on day one of his presidency, Donald Trump will seek more information.
nationalpost.com
Well now! Wasn't that invigorating? Nothing like the prospect of a good hanging, eh?
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He got our attention. A little bit of coverage about what consequences might be. Friends and enemies.
Now then. National Defence? Electric Cars (the US market just shrank markedly)? Battery plants? Or do we get to build pipelines to Canadian ports? Or do we continue to feed the American Beast?
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It's almost like wrecking Canadian resource export output was done on purpose to weaken us and make a bid for an economic takeover much easier.
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Well, well. People can put their hair fires out now. Another conspiracy theory proves true.
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I haven't heard anything about the strategic reserves ever since Biden drew it down and sold it to China.
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Didn't he sell high and buy low?
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Almost all of our beer is made by the same conglomerates that make American beer. There aren't any true, family brewers like Molson and Labbatt left. They're just brand names coming off the same line. American beer @ 5% is the same as Canadian beer @ 5%. It just a matter of taste.
No, another example of Trump being Trump.
One thing he did though is expose a lot of anti Canada types.
This is certainly a lesson that we should just find other buyers for our stuff.
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I’m not talking about the strategic oil reserve. That’s oil that’s already out of the ground and in tanks. Biden’s administration did sell some when prices were higher and replenished stocks when prices were lower. That was only a $2 billion profit in favour of America, so not, overall, a huge deal. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/st...eserve-scores-big-profit-hA4kCDRqAEusP85qxHOa
By ‘reserves’ I’m talking about oil that’s in the ground but could be extracted with the right investment and infrastructure. This can depend heavily on things like federal or state regulations, as well as the ability to raise capital to develop and exploit deposits. The latter depends heavily on the protected spot price of oil. If you can get it out of the ground and shipped for $50 a barrel, it makes a difference if you can sell it for $35 or for $65. Tariffs on competing oil imports can absolutely be a make or break.
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