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So we can build a pipeline across Quebec?
CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)
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So we can build a pipeline across Quebec?
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Which would be great, if the Government didn’t actively work against key revenue generators working to export (esp. O&G to Europe and Japan, Canada says ‘not a market’)
Can we and should we are different things. We should.
But You’ll have to ask Quebecers. Last time they weren’t keen on it.
I suppose the separatist leader of Alberta can talk to the separatist leader of Quebec. Neither has Canada first as part of their world view.
Agreed. Hopefully a lesson was learned.
Section 92(10) of the Constitution Act offers some support for the federal government legislating a pipeline across eastern Canada.
Hopefully accurate. The breathing room would be good. We need to recognize at a strategic level that, while our economic ties with the U.S. are unavoidably essential, we need to work to hedge and diversify for all the conventional reasons one does that in any investment strategy.
We shall see. I won’t take anything as a given with this administration.
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Of course it's about Trump being Trump. There was never any doubt for some. He's the driver. You started the thread. It's always been about tariffs and Trump. They are one in the same. People can now let their breath out, take some time and get your head around how he operates, instead of panicking evertime he says Boo.
Hopefully, after his studies are done, we'll have a new government that will bargain in our interests, our country and our economics.
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs........"
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That's right. I keep forgetting. Ontario is Canada.
A tip of the hat for the Kipling quote.
Let’s not discount the possibility that Trump made proclamations with full intention of ham-fistedly carrying them out, but was brought to his senses by those pointing out the significant harms such a blanket approach would do to America and to the image of the early days of his presidency.
While we’ve been focused entirely on the Canadian interests, let’s also not forget that he basically threatened the whole world with broad strokes tariffs. Not all of the pushback was coming from north of the Maple Syrup Line.
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Maybe not Quebec, but north of it through sovereign First Nation's territory that comprises most of that province. Maybe a new federal government should begin exploratory talks with FN?
Not sure where you get that from what I posted.
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Separatists are separatists because they do not feel as if they are treated like Canadians.
Canadians exist between Westmount and Westmount.
Treaty territory through Quebec doesn’t lead to Atlantic tidewater save for going through a very remote and mountainous part of Labrador.
Not sure it’s the smart move in the long run to further entrench First Nations and indigenous calling shots on national energy infrastructure. That would blow back hard elsewhere.
From a construction standpoint, the least-hard option would probably be leveraging the existing railway routes for new pipeline infrastructure from the prairies out to Quebec City or so, adjusted for whatever might already exist.
Then Smith should have no issues getting along with Legault. Should be simple enough to get that pipeline then right?
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Some people can't see the forest for the trees and will twist everything to blame Trump as an incompetent boob. Im sure someone could counter all day long about whether it's him or others, but sometimes a duck is just a duck. A duck some people spotted at the start of the thread.
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Makes sense. Just spitballing.
Sure, but when the incoming chief executive of the most powerful and richest country in the world directly and explicitly threatens your economy with the expressed intent on compromising your sovereignty, you have to take that seriously. Anything else by our political leadership would be a gross delinquency in their duties.
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Of course you need to take him seriously. He is a creature of habit. Nobody wants to consider those habits though. Even though they've been on display for 30+ years. Panic is not a consideration or a course of action.
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It would indeed be a dereliction not to consider the possibilities seriously.
But it is also useful to consider that there may be method in the madness, as Hamlet had it.
POTUS has been asking politely for a few decades now for Canada to do things differently. POTUS 47 has decided to stop being polite.
Kind of like our great Canadian peacemaker's treatment at the hands of the great Democrat social justice warrior.
LBJ to Pearson.
Grabbing him by the lapels, "Don't you come into my living room and piss on my rug."
forget Quebec. Build to Churchill or Fort Nelson
I’ve not seen anyone in real positions of power panicking, nor failing to assess the method to the madness. They’ve been stipulating potential responses partly to signal our own resolve to the U.S. audience, both consumer and political, and to reassure Canadians that they aren’t sleeping on this.
There’s been haste in some things, but haste is in order.
While tariffs seem to probably be a ‘not immediately’ thing, that hasn’t become clear until today, and what we were being told was that it very much would be.
A fast-developing asylum seeker rush on the border is definitely still in the cards, with significant quick executive action expected there south of the border.
Tariffs are the single largest and most direct threat, but far from the only significant or imminent one.
There’s been haste in some things, but haste is in order.
While tariffs seem to probably be a ‘not immediately’ thing, that hasn’t become clear until today, and what we were being told was that it very much would be.
A fast-developing asylum seeker rush on the border is definitely still in the cards, with significant quick executive action expected there south of the border.
Tariffs are the single largest and most direct threat, but far from the only significant or imminent one.
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