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CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

Czech_pivo said:
So you think that the Americans are too stupid to miss something along the same magnitude of what they caught on the Mexico border?
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You're being overdramatic. I'm saying it's a long unattended border. We're not just talking of a few bricks of pure stuff. It's in pills, heroin and they've even found it in weed, which makes it from BC to Washington by the ton. Mexico is going to find itself pretty squeezed for crossing points. They are naturally going to gravitate to easier entry points. The biggest lab busted in Canada was 30 miles from the Buffalo crossing. Perhaps it's time to start performing exit checks on a daily basis.
 
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Fishbone Jones said:
You're being overdramatic. I'm saying it's a long unattended border. We're not just talking of a few bricks of pure stuff. It's in pills, heroin and they've even found it in weed, which makes it from BC to Washington by the ton. Mexico is going to find itself pretty squeezed for crossing points. They are naturally going to gravitate to easier entry points. The biggest lab busted in Canada was 30 miles from the Buffalo crossing. Perhaps it's time to start performing exit checks on a daily basis.
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I’m 100% in favour of nailing the illegal drug trade here in Canada.
But are we willing to through back the covers and see what in revealed in places like Akwesasne and such?
 

Carney has no interest in being the PM of Canada beyond the next election​


www.eastonspectator.com

Carney has no interest in being the PM of Canada beyond the next election - Easton Spectator

Carney will impose the full WEF agenda on Canada, including digital currency and renamed carbon tax
www.eastonspectator.com www.eastonspectator.com

snip< Carney has no interest in being the PM of Canada beyond the next election. Carney will win the leadership campaign and will become the PM without a seat in Parliament. He will have a deal with the NDP to support the Liberals. He will then declare an economic emergency due to the Trump tariff proposals and use that to defer the next election another year to October 2026 (under the Constitution). During that time, Carney will impose the full WEF agenda on Canada, including digital currency and renamed carbon tax. He will resign before that election and leave Canada as the first post-national state. It will be a disaster for Canada!! Mark “Carney” my words!! >snip


I certainly hope not, but it's the liberals so........
 
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Czech_pivo said:
I’m 100% in favour of nailing the illegal drug trade here in Canada.
But are we willing to through back the covers and see what in revealed in places like Akwesasne and such?
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I'm all for it. Probably can't do much about the land, but they don't own the water. We just need lots of boats to blockade them.🙂
 
The Bread Guy said:
Latest tea leaves: potential for oil carve out? We'll see ...
globalnews.ca

Trump says Canada tariffs coming Saturday, ‘may not’ include oil | Globalnews.ca

Trump said he would likely decide by the end of the day Thursday whether to put a 25 per cent tariff on Canadian oil imports that would take effect on Saturday.
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Also archived here.
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Well sure. Why wouldn’t he exempt Canada’s single greatest export to the US whilst purporting to be mad about the trade deficit?
 
QV said:
Could be as simple as the Alberta Premier using diplomacy and not ranting anemic retaliatory tariffs like half the other Premiers.
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More likely, someone in his inner circle reminded him that tariffs on oil would increase the cost of living for voters.

Tariffs on car parts don't impact people's daily lives, it just makes the extras more expensive. Making the daily commute cost more is not a good look.
 
Furniture said:
More likely, someone in his inner circle reminded him that tariffs on oil would increase the cost of living for voters.

Tariffs on car parts doesn't impact people's daily lives, it just makes the extra's more expensive. Making the daily commute cost more is not a good look.
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Maybe. I wonder if Ottawa has discovered how important O&G is yet like the rest of the planet?
 
QV said:
Could be as simple as the Alberta Premier using diplomacy and not ranting anemic retaliatory tariffs like half the other Premiers.
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I doubt he even remembers who the Alberta Premier is or talking to her. His decision to exempt oil is going to be based on pure self-interest in keeping the price of gas low in America since he feels it’s a good determiner of the mood of Americans. Just like he asked OPEC at the WEF to increase production and lower the price of oil.

QV said:
Maybe. I wonder if Ottawa has discovered how important O&G is yet like the rest of the planet?
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In some alternate timeline where Canada massively increased O&G production I don’t see it necessarily helping resolve Trump’s stated reasons for a trade war with Canada, in fact it might make things worse. If we exported more O&G to the US our trade deficit would be even larger and annoy Trump even more. In any case, the Trudeau government did support Keystone XL and it was the US that killed it under Biden. If we exported more O&G to other countries we would further reduce the WCS-WTI discount (which already shrank due to TMX coming online) which would increase the price the US pays for Canadian oil which again would annoy Trump. He even explicitly stated today that he’s looking at the price of WCS to see if we’re giving him a good price to determine whether he’s going to exempt oil from the tariffs or not.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10989873/trump-tariffs-canada-tariffs-oil/
“We may or may not. We’re going to make that determination probably tonight on oil,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

“We’ll see. It depends on what the price is. If the oil is properly priced, if they treat us properly – which they don’t.”
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Well, 25% on WCS would cost Americans $40,000,000,000/year (25% of $150BUSD). That’s only an average of $114 per American man, woman and child. They won’t notice…
 
Good2Golf said:
Well, 25% on WCS would cost Americans $40,000,000,000/year (25% of $150BUSD). That’s only an average of $114 per American man, woman and child. They won’t notice…
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Big picture, maybe, but what about the compound effects of jacking up the price of petroleum & by-products, all those knock-on effects on the price of everything moved by things using petroleum products. Or does that only happen in Canada with the carbon tax, and American companies will graciously just absorb the extra costs? I'm not as optimistic.

Meantime, on the latest episode of "As the Tariff Turns," MOAR tea leaves: will they or won't they? Will it be enough? For who?
www.ctvnews.ca

Canada could avoid U.S. tariffs for now with border action: Trump’s commerce pick

With the threat of a Feb. 1 tariff imposition looming, U.S. President Donald Trump’s pick to lead the Commerce Department says Canada could avoid tariffs in the short term if the government addresses border concerns – and those sentiments are being echoed by Newfoundland and Labrador Premier...
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Also archived here -- from the piece ...
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Tick, tick, tick ...
 
Looks like we'll know by tomorrow....

Trump says he's still weighing whether Canadian oil will be a tariff target​

U.S. president said plan is still to hit Canadian goods with 25% tariffs on Feb. 1​


U.S. President Donald Trump says he will decide Thursday night if oil will be a target of the hefty tariffs he's threatening to impose on Canadian goods.

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office on Thursday, Trump suggested he intends to go ahead with his plan to hit both Canada and Mexico with crippling 25 per cent tariffs on goods coming from those countries.

 
The Bread Guy said:
Big picture, maybe, but what about the compound effects of jacking up the price of petroleum & by-products, all those knock-on effects on the price of everything moved by things using petroleum products. Or does that only happen in Canada with the carbon tax, and American companies will graciously just absorb the extra costs? I'm not as optimistic.

Meantime, on the latest episode of "As the Tariff Turns," MOAR tea leaves: will they or won't they? Will it be enough? For who?
www.ctvnews.ca

Canada could avoid U.S. tariffs for now with border action: Trump’s commerce pick

With the threat of a Feb. 1 tariff imposition looming, U.S. President Donald Trump’s pick to lead the Commerce Department says Canada could avoid tariffs in the short term if the government addresses border concerns – and those sentiments are being echoed by Newfoundland and Labrador Premier...
www.ctvnews.ca www.ctvnews.ca
Also archived here -- from the piece ...
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Tick, tick, tick ...
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I think this is the same guy who was telling anyone who would listen that he was going to be the Treasury Secretary and that Trump wasn’t going to let RFK Jr. anywhere near HHS.

I don’t think he knows what’s in his boss’ head.
 
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