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So what you are saying in fact is not that Military Experience could have helped your chances of a Policing Career, but your own immaturity while in the Military has damaged your chances of such a career.
bollocks. I've been responsible for millions of dollars of tax payer money, and far more importantly, men's lives.Futuretrooper said:It's not immaturity its a statement of fact, your not treated like an adult ever in the military.
Bruce Monkhouse said:...and besides, I guess you think in law enforcement one gets hired and the next day you get your gun/asp/vest? :
:rofl:....you are in for a BIG shock if you think you are treated as an adult when working in law enforcement...I am treated as more of a child in my job, than in the Army....if you doubt me, ask zipper or Bruce or noneck or blueline or blackhorse or anyone else. With all the silly rules and policies we must follow, I think I have more freedom in the military.Futuretrooper said:Not really much of an option, since I doubt any police service wants to see a dishonurable discharge on my record. I was looking forward to a career in the military after BMQ, but then just started to think that being treated like a ten year old for the next ten years of my life. I'm just going to make the best of my time in, and then get out once my contract is done.
George Wallace said:He's at the age, with the attitude, where us 'old soldiers' don't know sh**. He has learned all he needs to know. He has more modern an outlook on life. He is young. We are old. He has a High School Education. We don't go to High School (guess that Degree means nothing.). Ah! What do we know anyway? How many Leadership Courses have we had? How many have we taught on? He has it all figured out. He'll do it his way. Any wagers?
Just out of curiosity, what sort of "trooper" do you see yourself as in the "future" as per your screen name?
You do realize that any police service you apply to will send an interviewer to speak to your previous supervisors and review your PER? Perhaps a re-application of STFU and a new (if feigned) interest in your duties?
Then beat it, because it seems like there are lots of motivated young soldiers that would like your spot.
I can assure you that I would rather go through a door with a guy trained by the CF, than a greeter from WalMart. Maybe that is just me, though.
I can assure you that I would rather go through a door with a guy trained by the CF, than a greeter from WalMart.
or blueline
...and besides, I guess you think in law enforcement one gets hired and the next day you get your gun/asp/vest?
He's at the age, with the attitude, where us 'old soldiers' don't know sh**. He has learned all he needs to know. He has more modern an outlook on life. He is young. We are old. He has a High School Education. We don't go to High School (guess that Degree means nothing.). Ah! What do we know anyway? How many Leadership Courses have we had? How many have we taught on? He has it all figured out. He'll do it his way. Any wagers?
GAP said:I told most of my sons, when they got to the "I know better than you" age, that they should then move out and come back in five years. At that point they would be amazed at how much I have learned in the time they were gone. ;D
Futuretrooper said:I've met great NCO's that seemed to care about those below them, and I've met those that seemed to only get enjoyment out of being jerks to those below them. It all depends on the individual. I've found some NCO's were got to work with, others were extremely difficult, etc.
An attitude like this "if its within reason" isn't going to get you very far in any job. If you are not willing to put everything you have into what you are doing, an employer will not be willing to hire you.Futuretrooper said:No, I still work hard at my job if its within reason, maybe they could say that I don't make my bed perfectly folded but I doubt any employer would really care.
You really haven't learned much. Perhaps you ought to lose the attitude above ("if its within reason") and start paying attention to your classes. You are obviously missing a lot.Futuretrooper said:I found that I learned better skills that would help me in life from working at Safeway then I have so far in the military. Thats my own personal opinion.
They're, their, or there. Which one? Obviously you won't make a good police officer; you can't fill out the forms/reports correctly. You will most assuredly require post secondary schooling. You should have paid more attention when you were in High School.Futuretrooper said:Actaully, alot of members on their said the military did very little in helping with joining a police service, and they told me to do post secondary as well as get on with VSU, I should have listened to their advice.
You aren't even a "One Year Veteran" yet. What do you really know?Futuretrooper said:No, not really, I'd rather be in LE and haven't found the military to be that beneficial to myself or help me make myself a better person.
Well, you don't seem to have what it takes to be in the CF, from your rants here.
You really haven't learned much. Perhaps you ought to lose the attitude above ("if its within reason") and start paying attention to your classes. You are obviously missing a lot.
Guess what buttercup, no matter where you work, you are going to have superiors that are great and some who are down right pricks, and if you believe that policing will be any different then you are very deluded indeed. In fact given that police organizations have a paramilitary rank structure and have laws governing them that give those with rank the power to discipline persons for such "childish" things as not shaving, and being late, making your bed (like at Depot), it is my very strong belief that you would have serious problems working in a police service.
No, I still work hard at my job if its within reason, maybe they could say that I don't make my bed perfectly folded but I doubt any employer would really care.
An attitude like this "if its within reason" isn't going to get you very far in any job. If you are not willing to put everything you have into what you are doing, an employer will not be willing to hire you.
Sigs Guy said:No, if an employer does something that is beyond reason, at least in civvie street I simply tell them my concerns and if they disagree then I'll follow through with what they told me to do. I wouldn't do that in the military because I wouldn't want to get charged and get a pay deduction.
I also have a really hard time believing that the Sigs trade has nothing to offer Communications is such a huge industry, there has got to be some useful civilian application to the skills that you acquire in the trade?
Uh, I hate to be a buzz kill, but when you are in law enforcement, there are a heap of extra rules that apply to you and they may just seem unreasonable as well. In Ontario, it is called the Police Services Act and it can be quite the fun governor. You are not part of "civvy street".
I also have a really hard time believing that the Sigs trade has nothing to offer Communications is such a huge industry, there has got to be some useful civilian application to the skills that you acquire in the trade?
In any case, you obviously know more than the rest of us, so feel free to tell us to STFU, and we will withdraw from pestering you with half baked ideas. No doubt you will breeze into your second interview, flash a dazzling smile, pop a Mentos tm into your mouth and leave the panel all smiling and nodding. In all likelyhood you will be taken to stores right away to get your uniform, and then limo'ed to the nearest training academy for your basic constable course.