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CF Recruiting

Posted by "Steven and Tracy" <stcurtis@compusmart.ab.ca> on Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:20:16 -0700
I really don‘t understand why there are so many complaints about the pay in
the forces!!! How many people would be able to go out into civy street and
make what they do here
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Digital"
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
> All this stuff about a lack of money seems rather unreasonable to me. Many
> new recruits I know are rolling in cash and can‘t spend it fast enough. I
> imagine when you have a family to take care of your expenses will tend to
> catch up with you but the wages aren‘t anywhere near unreasonable.
>
> You can find the pay tables on the DND website somewhere. Rumour is the CF
> is getting another raise in April.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joan O. Arc"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 10:01 PM
> Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
>
>
> > Sounds good to me! Where do I sign up? : - The physical training alone
> > would probably do me in, I think!
> >
> > But, then, why all the stories in the press about soldiers Perhaps
> regular
> > forces, not reservists? Is that the difference? who are making $16-$18K
> per
> > year or whatever, sending their families to food banks, etc., etc.?
> >
> > And even if the press stories are misleading/wrong, perhaps it‘s this
> > *perception* that‘s seemingly causing people to stay away in droves?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Donald Schepens"
> > Reply-To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
> > Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:41:05 -0700
> >
> > The equivalent of $36K a year while you are a University Student pro
> rated
> > by the time you work isn‘t bad.
> >
> > Don
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Derrick Forsythe
> > To: ‘army-list@cdnarmy.ca‘
> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:28 PM
> > Subject: RE: CF Recruiting
> >
> >
> > > 2Lt‘s make three grand a month in the summers - plus free room and
> board
> > -
> > > and two grand rebate on their tuition if they stick around - I was
> > talking
> > > with Col Yee about thsi this morning - we have to re-focus how we
sell
> > > ourselves - it‘s about the money -
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Donald Schepens [SMTP:a.schepens@home.com]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:22 PM
> > > > To: army-list@cdnarmy.ca
> > > > Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
> > > >
> > > > Actually, the pay right now is fairly good especially compared to
> > > > labourers/fast food places.
> > > >
> > > > Don
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Joan O. Arc
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:51 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > See also the article in Saturday‘s *Globe and Mail* making more
or
> > less
> > > > the
> > > > > same point as John‘s CBC segment: Recruiting from non-traditional
> > groups
> > > > > women, aboriginals, etc. apparently *isn‘t* working all that
> well,
> > > > > resulting in lowered standards - precisely Jay‘s point - and
> > apparently
> > > > > ridiculously high attrition rates, too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe the CF should make the same concession Communist regimes
> around
> > > > the
> > > > > world have had to make over the past 10 years, or so, and finally
> > admit
> > > > that
> > > > > people respond to "economic incentives". In other words, if they
> want
> > > > > more/better recruits, they‘re simply going to have to PAY MORE!
> > > > >
> > > > > Whadday‘all think? Any chance at all the brainiacs at DND and
> their
> > > > > political masters will ever figure that one out??? BIG sigh...
> > > > >
> > > > > - Joan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > > > From: "Jay Digital"
> > > > > Reply-To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
> > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:06:31 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > > I‘m a little worried this recruiting bonanza will lead to a lower
> > > > quality
> > > > of
> > > > > recruits and training. Hopefully the CF will be able to main it‘s
> > high
> > > > > standards while still meeting their recruiting requirements.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: John Gow
> > > > > To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 10:02 PM
> > > > > Subject: CF Recruiting
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good evening all...
> > > > >
> > > > > Do try to catch the front end of th CBC‘s "National"
> > tonight...they
> > > > are
> > > > > onto the Recruiting crisis and the pc problems of Women,
Minorities
> > and
> > > > > aboriginals, and the number crunchers are in high gear...
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
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Posted by "Jay Digital" <todesengel@home.com> on Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:57:05 -0500
If you‘re in a tech trade you could easily make 50 to 100 more in most
cases...of course in the CF you don‘t need a degree and they do all your
training.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven and Tracy"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
> I really don‘t understand why there are so many complaints about the pay
in
> the forces!!! How many people would be able to go out into civy street
and
> make what they do here
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Digital"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 8:12 PM
> Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
>
>
> > All this stuff about a lack of money seems rather unreasonable to me.
Many
> > new recruits I know are rolling in cash and can‘t spend it fast enough.
I
> > imagine when you have a family to take care of your expenses will tend
to
> > catch up with you but the wages aren‘t anywhere near unreasonable.
> >
> > You can find the pay tables on the DND website somewhere. Rumour is the
CF
> > is getting another raise in April.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joan O. Arc"
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 10:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
> >
> >
> > > Sounds good to me! Where do I sign up? : - The physical training
alone
> > > would probably do me in, I think!
> > >
> > > But, then, why all the stories in the press about soldiers Perhaps
> > regular
> > > forces, not reservists? Is that the difference? who are making
$16-$18K
> > per
> > > year or whatever, sending their families to food banks, etc., etc.?
> > >
> > > And even if the press stories are misleading/wrong, perhaps it‘s this
> > > *perception* that‘s seemingly causing people to stay away in droves?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: "Donald Schepens"
> > > Reply-To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> > > To:
> > > Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
> > > Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:41:05 -0700
> > >
> > > The equivalent of $36K a year while you are a University Student pro
> > rated
> > > by the time you work isn‘t bad.
> > >
> > > Don
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Derrick Forsythe
> > > To: ‘army-list@cdnarmy.ca‘
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:28 PM
> > > Subject: RE: CF Recruiting
> > >
> > >
> > > > 2Lt‘s make three grand a month in the summers - plus free room and
> > board
> > > -
> > > > and two grand rebate on their tuition if they stick around - I was
> > > talking
> > > > with Col Yee about thsi this morning - we have to re-focus how we
> sell
> > > > ourselves - it‘s about the money -
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Donald Schepens [SMTP:a.schepens@home.com]
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:22 PM
> > > > > To: army-list@cdnarmy.ca
> > > > > Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, the pay right now is fairly good especially compared to
> > > > > labourers/fast food places.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Joan O. Arc
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:51 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > See also the article in Saturday‘s *Globe and Mail* making more
> or
> > > less
> > > > > the
> > > > > > same point as John‘s CBC segment: Recruiting from
non-traditional
> > > groups
> > > > > > women, aboriginals, etc. apparently *isn‘t* working all that
> > well,
> > > > > > resulting in lowered standards - precisely Jay‘s point - and
> > > apparently
> > > > > > ridiculously high attrition rates, too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe the CF should make the same concession Communist regimes
> > around
> > > > > the
> > > > > > world have had to make over the past 10 years, or so, and
finally
> > > admit
> > > > > that
> > > > > > people respond to "economic incentives". In other words, if
they
> > want
> > > > > > more/better recruits, they‘re simply going to have to PAY MORE!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whadday‘all think? Any chance at all the brainiacs at DND and
> > their
> > > > > > political masters will ever figure that one out??? BIG
sigh...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Joan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > > > > From: "Jay Digital"
> > > > > > Reply-To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Subject: Re: CF Recruiting
> > > > > > Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:06:31 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I‘m a little worried this recruiting bonanza will lead to a
lower
> > > > > quality
> > > > > of
> > > > > > recruits and training. Hopefully the CF will be able to main
it‘s
> > > high
> > > > > > standards while still meeting their recruiting requirements.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: John Gow
> > > > > > To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 10:02 PM
> > > > > > Subject: CF Recruiting
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good evening all...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do try to catch the front end of th CBC‘s "National"
> > > tonight...they
> > > > > are
> > > > > > onto the Recruiting crisis and the pc problems of Women,
> Minorities
> > > and
> > > > > > aboriginals, and the number crunchers are in high gear...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
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