Chest Rig vs Tac vest

[vonGarvin]

I have killed before

I have created life: twice. 

(NB: edited to end the madness)


How about them Maple Leafs?

 

[Britney Spears]

Brit - yes - but...

Bah! Fuck you too! You're just a CTS apologist like the rest of them!  ;D

OK Let's all take a step back here before we start cooking off 40mm grenades....

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

"You're just a CTS apologist like the rest of them!"

Ohhhhh, thems fighting words. 

 

[vonGarvin]

"You're just a CTS apologist like the rest of them!"

Ohhhhh, thems fighting words.

Can't wait to see it
"In this corner, wearing the 5000K super MOLLE is *insert name here*, up against, in that corner wearing the CTS issued TV *insert name there*..........
:argument:

 

[vonGarvin]

vonGarvin haven't seen you in the "Stop the kit issue and let soldiers buy their own." thread lately
http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/41731.30.html

Didn't see it.  I'll avoid it.  Only comment: "buy your own?"  Logistical nightmare.  Full stop.

 

[mdh]

I don't know about the TV but I love the argument graphic with the clubs  ;D

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

Hey Kev did you claim your kit as a business expense? ;D

 

[Loch Sloy!]

I have created life: twice. 

Well said.

I must admit that I agree with most of what Kevin said, but certainly not how it was put. He has been known to get a wee bit excited now and then...

Does anyone with combat experience feel that the dark green of a Cadpat TW vest over an Arid colour scheme uniform presents an improved aiming point/ sight picture for enemy pers? I can't help but think that  having a load carriage system roughly matching your uniform would  present a less obvious point of aim for the bad guys.

 

[COBRA-6]

Hey Kev did you claim your kit as a business expense? ;D

Taxes??  :rofl:

 

[Infanteer]

Imperial Stormtroopers don't wear Tacvests....

 

[MJP]

Well said.

I must admit that I agree with most of what Kevin said, but certainly not how it was put. He has been known to get a wee bit excited now and then...

Does anyone with combat experience feel that the dark green of a Cadpat TW vest over an Arid colour scheme uniform presents an improved aiming point/ sight picture for enemy pers? I can't help but think that  having a load carriage system roughly matching your uniform would  present a less obvious point of aim for the bad guys.

Not really...it's not like it's all brown drab desert over there.  It blends in well at a distance and when static you just look like one of the other million rocks around you.

 

[KevinB]

This threads still here? 

It depends I will agree with what Mike said at distance outside the cities.

I recall looking some nights in and around Kabul and you could not miss the guys in the TV's on Athena.

That long green and black gun (that they wont let guys paint anymore outside sniper cells) is a pretty big indicator too.


I owe a public appology to Von Garvin, as I've met some people who know him and say that he likes to play the devils advocate and his sarcasm is tough to read the net.

BUT I STILL HATE THE TV 

Mike - I have two rigs that I will drop off next time I am down - you can give them to deserving troops...

 

[vonGarvin]

I owe a public appology to Von Garvin, as I've met some people who know him and say that he likes to play the devils advocate and his sarcasm is tough to read the net.
BUT I STILL HATE THE TV 

No Problem *shaking hands*.  And I know that nothing I say will make you like anything.
As for the contrast of arid/green: I had green (TW?) combats and a tan camelback (yes, issued)   Then, it hit me like a dart between the eyes: what a wonderful aiming mark.  So, took that cadpat "cam screen dealie", cut a piece out and "covered" the camelback in it in a rudimentary fashion.


As for TV: the Law and Order series rocks, but the Gilmore Girls?  *puke*

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

Kev I'm pretty sure I saw guys on TV this tour with painted hand guards.

 

[MJP]

Painted handguards isn't an issue at all...if you have them no big deal to throw them on.

 

[KevinB]

It was painting the entire gun -- or in one guys case the M230A1 as well  ;D


I call this the RCR Heart Attack

EOTECH -painted TAN - kinda check - seems the paint did not stick well too it
REAR BIS - painted TAN - check
RAS - painted TAN/CAMO - check
PEQ-2B(Insight 7500) - painted TAN -check
Surefire - painted TAN - check
Vert Grip - Painted TAN - check
Pistol grip - painted TAN -check
Stock -  Painted TAN - check

Noticed reciever has been cleaned (somewhat) of the paint that had been applied



I had painted handguards in Canada...




And these came tan

I disgress --
Hey VonG - at least you got Camelbak's - we got 4 / platoon since NSE have divied them up (clerks need to suck water via a camelbak in an office dont-ya-know) to all the units...

 

[MJP]

Mike - I have two rigs that I will drop off next time I am down - you can give them to deserving troops...

Ahh good to hear.  Drop me a line when you'll be around.

 

[vonGarvin]

I call this the RCR Heart Attack

HELP!  SOMEONE CALL 911!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  *errrp*  How can you do drill with that?  It's junk   (yes, this is me being sarcastic)

I disgress --
Hey VonG - at least you got Camelbak's - we got 4 / platoon since NSE have divied them up (clerks need to suck water via a camelbak in an office dont-ya-know) to all the units...

Yes, get's awfully hot in those air conditioned ACCO trailers.  Could dehydrate and pass out on a keyboard and end up typing stuff like this:
kljasiopdf432n;og;jif


Heaven forbid!

 

[foerestedwarrior]

Yes, get's awfully hot in those air conditioned ACCO trailers.  Could dehydrate and pass out on a keyboard and end up typing stuff like this:
kljasiopdf432n;og;jif


Heaven forbid!

or they could acidentaly send a only half typed email, if they hit the correct combination of buttons....So I think they need to wear their BEW's at all times while in airconditioning. Rember, saftey first.

 

[starlight_cdn]

Got a good buddy in country running a TAG Molle plate carrier from One Shot Tactical. He is running, at least, ten mags primary and four to five mags secondary. The plate carrier worked better getting in and out o' vehicles for rapid dismount  with all the necessary fighting gear. He is a medic.....the infantry are carry more mags and frags.

Link to TAG Carrier: http://www.oneshottactical.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=oneshot&Product_Code=CR-PlateCarrier&Category_Code=CR

My father has had lunch with the Defence Minister who is under the impression that 5 mags is more than enough. "There is always more in the boat (evidently referring to the aged AVGP)" Doesn't mean much if all your stay behinds got blown up with the veh :