Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Kirkhill]

If there are two problems, Technical Trades and Combat Arms, perhaps their should be two pots of money and two training systems.

 

[Kirkhill]

Posting here instead of the Ukraine thread because the last part of this statement applies to this thread

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901360012049416376

Canada is interested in military-industrial and defense cooperation. Throughout this war, we have gained significant experience in the production of EW systems, long-range missiles, and drones. Ukraine is ready for joint production.

Are they just going to teach us how to make drones? Or are they going to teach us how to keep pace with the battlefield and rapidly adapt procurement?

 

[MilEME09]

Sounds like the PM wants to get Canadian companies in on the 800B European Rearmrament plan

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901396090269708303

 

[DBNSG]

Sounds like the PM wants to get Canadian companies in on the 800B European Rearmrament plan

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901396090269708303

So Carney should fly into Germany and Sweden and commit to some Leo's and CV-90's. You just know he wants to firehose more money.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Sounds like the PM wants to get Canadian companies in on the 800B European Rearmrament plan

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901396090269708303

To get into the programme we need to be willing to pony up some serious coin, serious coin.
No penny packets, money that folds not jingles.

 

[MilEME09]

To get into the programme we need to be willing to pony up some serious coin, serious coin.
No penny packets, money that folds not jingles.

True but it could mean tens of billions for Canadian companies

 

[Remius]

True but it could mean tens of billions for Canadian companies

Carney has spoken to France and the UK already. Hopefully something in the works.

 

[Czech_pivo]

True but it could mean tens of billions for Canadian companies

I agree - but consider this to be a large Family Reunion where we are that long lost cousin that moved far away from the family and has an ‘on again, off again’ relationship with most of the younger family members. The older family members have fond memories of us, memories of us coming to help in serious matters, when the chips were down, with no questions asked or expectations of compensation or recognition. But those older family members are dying off or no longer hold the sway that they use to have in the family. The younger family members are wondering what we are doing there, why did we show up, a few are even wondering if they should continue to invite us to these reunions.
So, with all this in mind, we can’t show up to the family reunion with some store bought cake, 2 bags of chips and a case of water. No - we freaking have to show up with a whole roast pig, 2 kegs of beer and a live band - and make a lasting impression on all the younger family members that we are worthy of being invited, we brought enough food for everyone and we all drank and danced onto the sun came up the next morning.

What I’m trying to say is this, if we decide to pivot we need to jump in with both feet and be fully committed 110% going forward and come to the table with some serious coin and capabilities from here on out.

 

[Kirkhill]

True but it could mean tens of billions for Canadian companies

If you are a Keynesian then this:

Defence spending spree can transform our economy – if we do it right

A complete review of Britain’s productive capacity is needed for rearmament to be successful

www.telegraph.co.uk

But one economist, a certain John Maynard Keynes ... didn’t think the government should just sit back and wait for the economy to rebound. Instead, he advocated for active intervention. He believed that the state had an important role in reversing the economic slump and he batted for massive government spending.

In fact, he had some pretty radical ideas. At one point he confessed — “The government should pay people to dig holes in the ground and then fill them up.”

The critics would reply — “That’s stupid, why not pay people to build roads and schools”

Keynes would respond by saying — “Fine, pay them to build schools. The point is it doesn’t matter what they do as long as the government is creating jobs”

Will Carney pay to build ports and pipelines?

 

[Kirkhill]

I agree - but consider this to be a large Family Reunion where we are that long lost cousin that moved far away from the family and has an ‘on again, off again’ relationship with most of the younger family members. The older family members have fond memories of us, memories of us coming to help in serious matters, when the chips were down, with no questions asked or expectations of compensation or recognition. But those older family members are dying off or no longer hold the sway that they use to have in the family. The younger family members are wondering what we are doing there, why did we show up, a few are even wondering if they should continue to invite us to these reunions.
So, with all this in mind, we can’t show up to the family reunion with some store bought cake, 2 bags of chips and a case of water. No - we freaking have to show up with a whole roast pig, 2 kegs of beer and a live band - and make a lasting impression on all the younger family members that we are worthy of being invited, we brought enough food for everyone and we all drank and danced onto the sun came up the next morning.

What I’m trying to say is this, if we decide to pivot we need to jump in with both feet and be fully committed 110% going forward and come to the table with some serious coin and capabilities from here on out.

Unlike many of the Europeans we have things to sell that we could use to pay back any debt in relatively short order. Assuming The Donald lets us hang on to it.

 

[OldSolduer]

If there are two problems, Technical Trades and Combat Arms, perhaps their should be two pots of money and two training systems.

The two are starting to intermingle. These days an infantryman has to adapt to a digital world, whereas we in our day were analog.

The new improved digital radios are an an example.

 

[OldSolduer]

I agree - but consider this to be a large Family Reunion where we are that long lost cousin that moved far away from the family and has an ‘on again, off again’ relationship with most of the younger family members. The older family members have fond memories of us, memories of us coming to help in serious matters, when the chips were down, with no questions asked or expectations of compensation or recognition. But those older family members are dying off or no longer hold the sway that they use to have in the family. The younger family members are wondering what we are doing there, why did we show up, a few are even wondering if they should continue to invite us to these reunions.
So, with all this in mind, we can’t show up to the family reunion with some store bought cake, 2 bags of chips and a case of water. No - we freaking have to show up with a whole roast pig, 2 kegs of beer and a live band - and make a lasting impression on all the younger family members that we are worthy of being invited, we brought enough food for everyone and we all drank and danced onto the sun came up the next morning.

What I’m trying to say is this, if we decide to pivot we need to jump in with both feet and be fully committed 110% going forward and come to the table with some serious coin and capabilities from here on out.

Bingo. Love it.

Lets get serious - really serious please.

 

[Kirkhill]

Mario Draghi sworn in as prime minister of Italy​

This article is more than 4 years old
Former European Central Bank chief to lead unity government as it tackles Covid and economic slump

The former European Central Bank chief Mario Draghi has been sworn in as Italy’s prime minister at the head of a unity government called on to confront the coronavirus crisis and economic slump.

Draghi, a respected figure at home and internationally, managed to convince almost all of the country’s main parties to support his government, with leaders from the far-right League and populist Five Star Movement (M5S) adopting more moderate, pro-European tones in recent days.

Draghi’s appointment ends weeks of political turmoil triggered after Matteo Renzi withdrew his Italia Viva from a ruling coalition made up of M5S and the centre-left Democratic party because of clashes over how the government was planning to spend the €200bn-plus that Italy is poised to receive from the EU’s Covid-19 recovery fund. Renzi’s move led to Giuseppe Conte stepping down as prime minister.

Draghi, nicknamed “Super Mario” for his role in saving the euro, also has overwhelming support from the Italian press, which over the last week have feted him as “a new Italian miracle”.

Mario Draghi sworn in as prime minister of Italy

Former European Central Bank chief to lead unity government as it tackles Covid and economic slump

www.theguardian.com

2021. Country in crisis. Unemployed central banker appointed Prime Minister at the behest of the EU.

 

[Kirkhill]

The two are starting to intermingle. These days an infantryman has to adapt to a digital world, whereas we in our day were analog.

The new improved digital radios are an an example.

There is a difference between using and servicing. I use lots of stuff that I have no clue about what happens after I press the button.

 

[OldSolduer]

There is a difference between using and servicing. I use lots of stuff that I have no clue about what happens after I press the button.

I had a real issue with the new improved radios - it was almost like you needed a degree in programming to get it to work. I hated them.

Yes servicing is different - but you need to try to at least troubleshoot it.

 

[MilEME09]

I had a real issue with the new improved radios - it was almost like you needed a degree in programming to get it to work. I hated them.

Yes servicing is different - but you need to try to at least troubleshoot it.

Need to simplify kit

 

[Kirkhill]

Need to simplify kit

As a civilian my requirement is another set of batteries or a charger and a replacement.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Carney has spoken to France and the UK already. Hopefully something in the works.

Using a word that I’ve learned to dislike and distrust when speaking about expanded CAF capabilities and restoring it back to us proper standing - ‘hope’

 

[Val St]

Well, looks like NDP already stepped in with their own plan for rearmament

 

[Czech_pivo]

Well, looks like NDP already stepped in with their own plan for rearmament

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Not sure if that pic is appropriate.