Jets over cities?

[3rd Herd]

From the tree hugger in BC

Red Wine Mountains Caribou Herd
•Due to the proximity of this herd to 5 Wing Goose Bay, it is the most susceptible to disturbance from the low-level training program
•As this herd is in a steady state of decline, it remains a major research focus for the Institute
Dr. Louis LaPierre Ph.D. Institute ChairHalifax, June 8th, 2004
•The Institute is an advisory bodyreporting to the Ministers of National Defence and Environment on impactsand mitigation relating to military aircraft training activities in Labradorand Northeastern Quebec
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:L4kBN3Dohq4J:www.iemr.org/Wrkgrps/uploads/overview_IEMR_june_04_2.pdf+caribou+goose+bay&hl=en

 

[Sheerin]

Ah the good old Viper Mk II.

I live in Toronto by the lake (scarborough to be exact - on the scarborough bluffs no less) and from time to time I can hear (and feel) C-130s flying overhead, presumably doing SAR.

Its quite impressive. 

I remember one morning when I was in grade 4 or 5 I was walking to school and a C-130 flew maybe 500 feet above my head.  It was damned impressive and it scared the shit out of me.  SInce i was young I really didn't know much about military equipment and I thought it was a bomber and that the Air Force had designated my home area as a bombing range and no one told me.

Yeah I had quite the imagination.

 

[3rd Herd]

An example of complaint and an example of the way in which it was handled:

From the Arizona Republic online.....

A complaint posted and the reply:

Complaint:

Quote:

A wake-up call from Luke's jets

Jun. 23, 2005 12:00 AM

"Question of the day for Luke Air Force Base:
Whom do we thank for the morning air show?

Last Wednesday, at precisely 9:11 a.m., a tight formation of four
F-16 jets made a low pass over Arrowhead Mall,
continuing west over Bell Road at approximately 500 feet. Imagine
our good fortune!

Do the Tom Cruise-wannabes feel we need this
wake-up call, or were they trying to impress the cashiers at
Mervyns' early-bird special?

Any response would be appreciated."

"The reply is classic, and a testament to the professionalism and
heroism of the folks in the armed services. The response:"

Quote:


Regarding "A wake-up call from Luke's jets"
(Letters, Thursday):

On June 15, at precisely 9:12 a.m., a perfectly timed four-ship of
F-16s from the 63rd Fighter Squadron at Luke Air Force Base flew
over the grave of Capt Jeremy Fresques.

Capt. Fresques was an Air Force officer who waspreviously stationed
at Luke Air Force Base and was killed in Iraq on
May 30, Memorial Day.

At 9 a.m. on June 15, his family and friends gathered at Sunland
Memorial Park in Sun City to mourn the loss of a husband, son and
friend.

Based on the letter writer's recount of the flyby, and because of
the jet noise, I'm sure you didn't hear the 21-gun salute, the
playing of taps, or my words to the widow and parents of Capt.
Fresques as I gave them their son's flag on behalf of the president
of the United States and all those veterans and servicemen and women
who understand the sacrifices they have endured.

A four-ship flyby is a display of respect the Air Force pays to
those who give their lives in defense of freedom. We are
professional aviators and take our jobs seriously, and on June 15
what the letter writer witnessed was four officers lining up to pay
their ultimate respects.

The letter writer asks, "Whom do we thank for the morning air show?"

The 56th Fighter Wing will call for you, and forward your thanks to
the widow and parents of Capt. Fresques, and thank them for you, for
it was in their honor that my pilots flew the most honorable
formation of their lives.

Lt. Col. Scott Pleus
CO 63rd Fighter Squadron
Luke Air Force Base

Choo

 

[aesop081]

it doesnt get more professional than that 

 

[Journeyman]

From the Arizona Republic online.....  A wake-up call from Luke's jets

Been forwarding it since I first read it.....  (I know LOTS of tree-huggers    )

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Would love to know if the guy who made the complaint ever responded

 

[Crimmsy]

He did. See http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/wakeup.asp

Regarding "Flyby honoring fallen comrade" (Letters, June 28):

I read with increasing embarrassment and humility the response to my unfortunate letter to The Republic concerning an Air Force flyby ("A wake-up call from Luke's jets," Letters, June 23).

I had no idea of the significance of the flyby, and would never have insulted such a fine and respectful display had I known.

I have received many calls from the fine airmen who are serving or have served at Luke, and I have attempted to explain my side and apologized for any discomfort my letter has caused.

This was simply an uninformed citizen complaining about noise.

I have been made aware in both written and verbal communications of the four-ship flyby, and my heart goes out to each and every lost serviceman and woman in this war in which we are engaged.

I have been called un-American by an unknown caller and I feel that I must address that. I served in the U.S. Navy and am a Vietnam veteran. I love my country and respect the jobs that the service organizations are doing.

Please accept my heartfelt apologies.

Tom MacRae, Peoria

 

[condor888000]

Might just be me, but if he served in the navy, wouldn't it make sense that he would be aware of the fly by's meaning?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Might just be me, but if he served in the navy, wouldn't it make sense that he would be aware of the fly by's meaning?

Not necessarily. You're talking about a VERY BIG organization, of which some members never have contact with the Air side of their Arm.

 

[condor888000]

True, didn't think of that...