New accommodations facility at CFB Esquimalt and plan to build more homes on military bases

[YZT580]

My understanding is that pre-fabs/ATCO style might be required in some places to bridge the gap until new, permanent quarters can be built.

spending your money twice then. 200 home subdivisions with all the bells and whistles including landscaping and sidewalks go up in every major city in less time than they are talking for the singles building. Their announcement is a joke, a very sick joke for those trying to move into the Victoria area

 

[Bluebulldog]

spending your money twice then. 200 home subdivisions with all the bells and whistles including landscaping and sidewalks go up in every major city in less time than they are talking for the singles building. Their announcement is a joke, a very sick joke for those trying to move into the Victoria area

Swing space is common for most major accommodation projects where existing is being renovated / or demo'd. Rental space from ATCO or WILSCOT would have been factored into the project budget.

Building a stick frame subdivision, in comparison to a Federally Owned asset isn't really an equivalency. But I get where you're coming from.

 

[Eaglelord17]

It is, its small, very small.

But its probably what we should be building right now, if we want to keep going with single family homes. I know the HRM City Council seems to believe that the future is in density, apartments and condos.

For larger cities density is the future. Building a bunch of small single dwelling homes still doesn’t change the fact that you have 4 families living in the same area you could have 80 (or more). It also means longer commutes, as those houses keep getting built farther and farther back until you eventually run out of space to do so.

It doesn’t mean the end of single family homes, it’s just acknowledging that larger cities have limited footprints but high populations and as such it makes sense to build densely in those areas.

Most the issues we have with housing has been we never built high density infrastructure and instead kept pushing single dwelling homes long after it became obvious it wasn’t a long term solution for those cities.

The CAF in general should be building a ton of shacks, starting with apartments then some single dwelling homes, enough to house the CAF plus some expansion. If you choose to live off base no PLD or equivalent, you pay the same as everyone else. Make the on base housing a low fixed amount across the country, ‘local housing prices’ shouldn’t matter, the military doesn’t do a local job.

 

[CountDC]

Surely they can find the blueprints for these puppies? I think half the houses in Winnipeg’s post-war neighbourhoods use this design.

Strawberry box houses - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Americans can't find the technology used to land on the moon, do you really think Canada can find these blueprints?

Toronto is supposedly on the list for some housing at local market value. This of course raised the question of "do you really think that is going to help Cpl Bloggins that is struggling with the local market value?" Moving from one place they can't afford to another they can't afford doesn't solve anything. One problem with TB and the Government involved in every decision is when locals outside the military cry foul they are too quick to jump for the vote. Don't know how much truth there is to it but one reason I was given that factored into the change - local landlords complained that military members were opting to live in quarters rather than rent from them because it was cheaper.

 

[Quirky]

Don't know how much truth there is to it but one reason I was given that factored into the change - local landlords complained that military members were opting to live in quarters rather than rent from them because it was cheaper.

If the CAF had the capability to build their own PMQs there would probably less backlash on these types of things.

I would tell the landlords to eat sh*t, have them lower their prices to match local PMQ rates for CAF members or face a loss of income. Our salaries are fixed regardless of our posting, housing costs should be too. We don’t have enough people with a backbone to care about problems like this.