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Piper said:people who don't live through their internet personas.
Thats funny....pot, this is kettle.........
Piper said:people who don't live through their internet personas.
Piper said:You're missing the point (and so are alot of people in this thread). The new law will ban ANYONE 21 and under from having any alcohol in their system while driving, regardless of the class of license they have. I'll have a couple beers with dinner and I am CERTAINLY not drunk nor even slightly impaired in my driving skills. So why should I not be permitted to engage in a LEGAL activity (driving with less then 0.08 BAC) when anyone else 22 and up can. It's age related discrimination.
benny88 said:Outrageous, especially the one passenger 19 and under rule. Does that mean I can't take my little cousins to hockey practice? Does that mean a 21 year old mother couldn't drive her children to pre-school? The law seems like a GREAT : idea until you realize that there ARE cars full of people under 21 who AREN'T on mail-box smashing, crack-smoking joyrides.
Piper said:You're missing the point (and so are alot of people in this thread). The new law will ban ANYONE 21 and under from having any alcohol in their system while driving, regardless of the class of license they have. I'll have a couple beers with dinner and I am CERTAINLY not drunk nor even slightly impaired in my driving skills. So why should I not be permitted to engage in a LEGAL activity (driving with less then 0.08 BAC) when anyone else 22 and up can. It's age related discrimination.
slowmode said:The ONLY thing i'm complaining about is the passenger part of the law....I can care less about the alcohol.
Teenage drivers are overrepresented in crashes when compared to middle-aged drivers. Driver distraction is becoming a greater concern among this group as in-vehicle devices, opportunities for distractions, and teenage drivers’ willingness to engage in these activities increase. The objective of this study was to determine how different distraction factors impact the crash types that are common among teenage drivers. A multinomial logit model was developed to predict the likelihood that a driver will be involved in one of three common crash types: an angular collision with a moving vehicle, a rear-end collision with a moving lead vehicle, and a collision with a fixed object. These crashes were evaluated in terms of four driver distraction categories: cognitive, cell phone related, in-vehicle, and passenger-related distractions. Different driver distractions have varying effects on teenage drivers’ crash involvement. Teenage drivers that were distracted at an intersection by passengers or cognitively were more likely to be involved in rear-end and angular collisions when compared to fixed-object collisions. In-vehicle distractions resulted in a greater likelihood of a collision with a fixed object when compared to angular collisions. Cell phone distractions resulted in a higher likelihood of rear-end collision. The results from this study need to be evaluated with caution due to the limited number of distraction related cases available in the U.S. GES crash database. Implications for identifying and improving the reporting of driver distraction related factors are therefore discussed.
Ninety percent of teens said they rarely or never drive after drinking or using drugs, reflecting a trend that has seen teen traffic deaths involving alcohol drop by about 35 percent from 1990 to 2005, according to National Highway Traffic Safety Administration data.
But teens reported a host of other in-car distractions that researchers say help make traffic accidents the No. 1 killer of U.S. teens, with a fatality rate four times higher than drivers aged 25-69, based on miles driven. About 5,600 teens died in traffic accidents in 2005, and about 7,500 were driving cars involved in fatal accidents.
Researchers found that one teenage passenger with a teen driver doubles the risk of a fatal crash, while the risk is five times higher when two or more teens ride along. Most states have laws restricting passengers when teens drive, but 15 states do not.
Nearly 90 percent of teens reported seeing peers drive while talking on cell phones and more than half spotted drivers using hand-held games, listening devices or sending text messages.
About 75 percent said they see teens driving while tired or struggling with powerful emotions, such as worries about grades or relationships. More than nine of 10 teens also reported seeing teen drivers speeding and half said they sometimes drive at least 10 mph over posted speed limits themselves.
"The environment for a teen driver is much more challenging and demanding than most of us adults thought. They're trying to manage all of that while trying to navigate the vehicle at the same time and they're pretty inexperienced at that," said Laurette Stiles, vice president of strategic resources at Bloomington-based State Farm.
Michael O`Leary said:And there have been reported studies that the distractions provided by passengers can be a major factor in accidents. Offer solutions, not complaints.
slowmode said:Im sure there are as much dangerous drivers who are over 21 as there are under.
Michael O`Leary said:Based on what?
This is an issue because accident statistics show that teenagers have higher rates of accidents and that in-car distractions from passengers is a recurring factor. Just because someone finds car-pooling to be their affordable transportation option doesn't mean they will automatically be a well-behaved passenger, or that their driver is more responsible than average. You're failing to address the established facts that have led to these regulations, and are instead arguing simply for your preferred options from an emotional bias.
Celticgirl said:I fully expect that driver re-testing above a certain age will be implemented in the future for similar reasons. Call it age discrimination if you want, but I will be all for it when it happens. Statistics don't lie.
Celticgirl said:I fully expect that driver re-testing above a certain age will be implemented in the future for similar reasons. Call it age discrimination if you want, but I will be all for it when it happens. Statistics don't lie.
tynanfromBC said:Driving is one of the most dangerous things we do day in and day out.
CountDC said:I support mandatory testing without age discrimination. I think everyone should be retested every 5 years.
CountDC said:- I support mandatory testing without age discrimination. I think everyone should be retested every 5 years.
karl28 said:Rocketryan
Here is a thought the others can take a cab if they can afford to drink to the point where they cant drive than take a cab home . That's what me and my friends did when we where that young .