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North Korea (Superthread)

George Wallace said:
The first thing to come to mind when I looked at that photo was:  "Oh my God!  The North Koreans have created a Donut Bomb."
The first thing I thought was "Oh my God, the Koreans have perfected the Mortar Bomb!"



(For those who don't know such things of lore and slander, Infantry Mortarmen were often derided and ridiculed for having insatiable appetites for doughnuts.  Total and utter lies, I say, but still pretty funny!)
 
b7197 said:
Not the North Koreans, but the South Koreans.

Perceptive of you to notice that, especially since the posting was headed: "South Korea does a little sabre rattling of it own." That would have led several people astray.
 
Technoviking said:
The first thing I thought was "Oh my God, the Koreans have perfected the Mortar Bomb!"



(For those who don't know such things of lore and slander, Infantry Mortarmen were often derided and ridiculed for having insatiable appetites for doughnuts.  Total and utter lies, I say, but still pretty funny!)

Its true, we did love our donuts in 2VP Mortar Pl!!  ;D
 
SEOUL - Secretive North Korea on Thursday published a photograph of the youngest son and heir apparent to the communist state's ailing leader Kim Jong-Il, the first official image of him ever released.
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This undated picture released from North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) on September 30, 2010 shows North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il (front R) during a photo session with the newly elected members of the central leadership body of the Workers' Party of Korea at the plaza of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace in Pyongyang. The Worker's Party of Korea on September September 28 held its highest-level gathering for 30 years to elect a new leadership. The party senior postgiven to Kim's son Jong-Un appeared to confirm his status as his father's heir apparent.
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Koreas exchange gunfire at land border:

SEOUL - North and South Korea exchanged gunfire across their heavily armed land border on Friday, the South's military said, despite an apparent thaw in tensions on the divided peninsula in the past few months.

The North Korean frontline guard post fired two shots towards a South Korean guardpost across the demilitarised zone and the South returned fire with three shots, a joint chiefs of staff official said.

It was not immediately clear why North Korea fired first, he said.

South Korea media said the shots were fired towards a frontline unit in Cheorwon in the eastern province of Gangwon. There were no reports of injuries.

Relations between the two Koreas, still technically at war after signing only a truce to halt hostilities in the 1950-53 Korean War, sank to the lowest level in years in March with the torpedoing of the South's warship, killing 46 sailors.
There was an exchange of artillery fire earlier this year at the disputed sea border.

South Korea and the United States said the North was responsible for the sinking, but Pyongyang denied any role.

In the past few months, tensions have eased on the peninsula with the South sending aid to its impoverished neighbour, and on the weekend the two sides will resume reunions of families separated by the 1950-53 Korean War.

The thaw comes as regional powers look for ways to restart talks with the North on ending its nuclear arms program.
However, Seoul has said said it won't return to bilateral negotiations until the reclusive North acknowledges being behind the attack on the warship, posing a major stumbling block to the resumption of aid-for-disarmament talks with Pyongyang.
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S. Korean navy fires on N. Korean fishing boat:

South Korea's navy fired warning shots toward a North Korean fishing boat near their disputed sea border, the Defence Ministry said Wednesday, the latest sign of tension on the divided peninsula ahead of next week's Group of 20 summit in Seoul.

The ministry said the boat violated the countries' western maritime boundary for about two hours before returning to North Korean waters early Wednesday. The maritime border, the scene of three deadly skirmishes between the Koreas, is a key flashpoint because the North does not recognize the UN line drawn at the end of the 1950-53 Korean War.

South Korea is bracing for any possible North Korean moves to sabotage next week's G20 summit of leading industrialized and developing countries.

The North has a track record of provocations during times when world attention is focused on Seoul.

In 1987, a year before Seoul hosted the Summer Olympics, North Korean agents planted a bomb on a South Korean plane, killing all 115 people on board. In 2002, when the South jointly hosted soccer's World Cup along with Japan, a North Korean naval boat sank a South Korean patrol vessel near the sea border.

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak said in a televised news conference Wednesday that he did not believe the North would take any such action, but that Seoul was ready for anything.

"The South Korean government is making thorough preparations against [any possible attacks] by North Korea," Lee said.

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From CNN

North Korea Reportedly Fires on South Korea; Killing 1 and Injuring 15.

North Korea fired artillery toward its tense western sea border with South Korea on Tuesday, killing at least one South Korean soldier, the Yonhap news agency reported.

Two civilians and 13 other South Korean military personnel were injured, with three of the soldiers seriously hurt, Yonhap said.

At least 200 rounds of artillery hit an inhabited South Korean island in the Yellow Sea after the North started firing about 2:30 p.m. local time, Yonhap said.

South Korea's military responded with 80 rounds of artillery and deployed fighter jets to counter the fire, the report said.

The South Korean army also raised its alert condition, the report said.

Images of plumes of smoke were quickly broadcast on Yonhap television from the island of Yeonpyeong, but it was not immediately clear what the artillery had hit.

The South Korean government immediately called an emergency meeting of its security ministers.

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak ordered his ministers to take measures against an escalation of the situation, presidential spokeswoman Kim Hee-jung said, according to Yonhap.
Full story: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/23/nkorea.skorea.military.fire/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1
 
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http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/23/nkorea.skorea.military.fire/?hpt=T2 said:
Seoul, South Korea (CNN) -- North Korea fired artillery toward its tense western sea border with South Korea on Tuesday, killing at least one South Korean soldier, the Yonhap news agency reported.
Two civilians and 13 other South Korean military personnel were injured, with three of the soldiers seriously hurt, Yonhap said.
A Ministry of Defense spokesman contradicted the Yonhap report, saying that no deaths had been confirmed and that the military was checking on possible civilian casualties.
At least 200 rounds of artillery hit an inhabited South Korean island in the Yellow Sea after the North started firing about 2:30 p.m. local time, Yonhap said.
South Korea's military responded with 80 rounds of artillery and deployed fighter jets to counter the fire, the report said.
Sharp tensions on the Korean Peninsula Report: N. Korea fires on S. Korea

The South Korean army also raised its alert condition, the report said.
Images of plumes of smoke were quickly broadcast on Yonhap television from the island of Yeonpyeong, but it was not immediately clear what the artillery had hit. The island has a large military garrison.
The island has a total of about 1,300 residents, a fisherman who lives on the island told Yonhap.
Some residents started fleeing for the South Korean mainland, which is about 145 kilometers [90 miles] away. Other residents were seeking shelter at schools.
The South Korean government immediately called an emergency meeting of its security ministers.
South Korean President Lee Myung-bak ordered his ministers to take measures against an escalation of the situation, presidential spokeswoman Kim Hee-jung said, according to Yonhap.
The North Korean fire came as the South's military conducted routine drills in waters off the island, which is about 10 kilometers [6 miles] from the North.
The Yellow Sea has been a longstanding flashpoint between the two Koreas, but Tuesday's attack was an escalation in violence.
"Our navy was conducting a maritime exercise near the western sea border today.
North Korea has sent a letter of protest over the drill. We're examining a possible link between the protest and the artillery attack," presidential spokeswoman Kim said, according to Yonhap.
The island is part of a small archipelago about 80 kilometers (49 miles) west of the South Korean port of Inchon, which serves Seoul, and is close to the tense Northern Limit Line, the maritime border between the two Koreas in the Yellow Sea.
A South Korean warship, the Cheonan was sunk in the area in March with the loss of 46 lives in a suspected North Korean torpedo attack.

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I'm thinking that this may have something to do with the spiralling effect.
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''China must use its influence to restore peace.'' 

Tension in the Korean peninsula, which was sparked by North Korea’s sinking of a South Korean ship in March, is spiralling. The South Korean government has expressed its anger with Pyongyang through a series of steps, including a ban on all trade, investment and visits with North Korea. It has banned North Korean ships from using its waterways or shortcuts. It is also referring the case to the United Nations Security Council. North Korea, which is denying having sunk the ship has reportedly placed its armed forces on alert. The sudden and sharp deterioration in relations between the two Koreas is unfortunate. Inter-Korea relations have undergone a significant improvement in recent years. That is now in serious jeopardy. There is understandable anger in South Korea. Forty-six of its sailors were killed when the ship sank. But calls for retribution must not be encouraged as an escalation of the crisis is not in nobody’s interest.

The response of the international community has not been helpful so far. Although the United States has desisted from describing the sinking of the ship as an act of war, its recent announcement that US forces would conduct joint naval exercises with South Korea in the near future “to ensure readiness and to deter future aggression” by North Korea is provocative. Instead of working to ease tensions in the peninsula, its actions are adding fuel to the fire in a region that is restive. As for China, it has adopted a cautious approach. China must use its leverage over Pyongyang to quietly but firmly convince it that hostile behaviour is untenable.

How the permanent members act in the UNSC will determine the events in the Korean peninsula. If the US seeks to bulldoze a resolution that provides for punishing sanctions, China will block it. A divided SC will leave the UN severely scarred. It will also encourage countries to engage in the kind of reckless behaviour that North Korea has indulged in. World powers must seek a consensus to deal with North Korea. Punishing Pyongyang with tough sanctions might seem an attractive solution but that might not be the best way to go in the long run as sanctions have rarely worked in forcing regimes to act responsibly. A carrot and stick solution must be sought.

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Scary....

More from the Associated Press ....
North Korea bombarded a South Korean island near their disputed western border Tuesday, setting buildings ablaze and killing at least two marines after warning the South to halt military drills in the area, South Korean officials said.

South Korea said it returned fire and scrambled fighter jets in response, and said the "inhumane" attack on civilian areas violated the 1953 armistice halting the Korean War. The two sides technically remain at war because a peace treaty was never negotiated.

Hours after the skirmish, North Korea's supreme military command threatened to continue strikes against its rival if it violated their disputed sea border "even 0.001 millimeter," according to the North's official Korean Central News Agency ....

.... from AFP ....
North Korea fired dozens of artillery shells onto a South Korean island on Tuesday, killing two people, setting homes ablaze and triggering an exchange of fire as the South's military went on top alert.

In what appeared to be one of the most serious border incidents since the 1950-53 war, South Korean troops fired back with cannon, the government convened in an underground war room and "multiple" air force jets scrambled.

North Korea's official media, however, accused South Korea of firing first.

The firing came after North Korea's disclosure of an apparently operational uranium enrichment plant -- a second potential way of building a nuclear bomb -- which is causing serious alarm for the United States and its allies ....

.... and Reuters:
North Korea on Tuesday fired dozens of artillery shells at a South Korean island, in one of the heaviest bombardments on the South since the Korean War ended in 1953. Skip related content

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak, who has pursued a hard line with the reclusive North since taking office nearly three years ago, said a response had to be firm following the attack on Yeonpyeong island, just 120 km (75 miles) west of the capital Seoul.

The two Koreas are still technically at war -- the Korean War ended only with a truce --and tension rose sharply early this year after Seoul accused the North of torpedoing one of its navy vessels, killing 46 sailors.

"Houses and mountains are on fire and people are evacuating. You can't see very well because of plumes of smoke," a witness on the island told YTN Television.

"People are frightened to death and shelling continues as we speak."

YTN said at least 200 North Korean shells hit Yeonpyeong, which lies off the west coast of the divided peninsula near a disputed maritime border. Most of the shells landed on a South Korean military base there.

South Korea's military said one soldier was killed and three seriously injured in the attack. South Korean military returned the fire and sent a jet fighter to the area ....

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Also, this (somewhat) related sidebar:
A 13-year-old American boy campaigning to turn the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea into a peace park tried to get the Chinese president's attention Monday, staging a brief protest near Tiananmen Square before being led away by police.

Jonathan Lee unfurled a sign saying "peace treaty" and "nuclear free DMZ children's peace forest" as he stood outside Tiananmen Gate just north of the square in central Beijing.

The scene of numerous demonstrations over the years, the gate and square remain some of the most tightly controlled public spaces in China and all protests on it are quickly snuffed by security agents, sometimes violently. In 1989, tanks and troops rolled into the square to crush a student-led pro-democracy movement, killing at least hundreds of people.

Less than a minute after Lee began his demonstration, a man presumed to be a plainclothes police officer grabbed the boy's sign and waved away watching journalists, who had been contacted by Lee's family ahead of time. Three or four uniformed police officers then hurriedly escorted Lee and his mother away without commotion ....
Kumbaya, kid.....

Edited to add links to ongoing news updates:

South Korean Yonhap news agency
Official North Korean news service
Google News:  "North Korea"
EMM Explorer:  "North Korea"
EMM Explorer:  "South Korea"
NewsNow:  "Korea"
 
The ROK could use this opportunity to strike key strategic assets in the North or to attack a key Naval base. Since the ROK did not respond to the North's previous attack on a ROK Naval vessel this was viewed as a sign of weakness. The North may also view the US as being weak or distracted this could easily get to a point of no return.
 
,,,,,,And who was it who predicted (in another thread) that we may be in Korea next year ?
 
Kick America when she is down. How much is this going to cost? Any more debt and the US will be a banana republic.
 
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