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We could attache them with velcro.
Old Sweat said:Dextraze finally quashed the single badge plan when he was CDS.
ModlrMike said:I'm glad we never followed through with that misbegotten idea.
TCBF said:- Having worn Battledress and CF Tunic styles, I prefer the CF Tunic style, thanks.
- I don't want to return to an army which is rich in office uniforms but field poor. I now think that if any new uniform is in addition to the 'Rifle Green' DEU, rather than replacing it, then nix it.
TCBF said:- Nix the work dress, as well.
TCBF said:- I recall that a lot of the drive towards an 'independent' colour was political: Gamel Abdel Nasser saw Canadians rolling off the carrier looking just like Brits - kilts and all. Endex. Also, the CF Greens were bought at the tail end of a lot of WW2 careers, and those guys knew every time a picture of Canadians fighting was shown to Americans, they called us 'British'. Hence: our own look.
Matt_Fisher said:I think that the consensus is going towards dropping the current winterweight CF/Rifle Green DEU in favour of a more historically oriented khaki one, with the same style jacket for both officers and NCMs. Given that eventually, DSSPM is going to fund and field a midweight replacement to the current heavyweight/winter DEU, why not go with khaki?
There will still be occasions that combats are too casual and full DEU with tunic may be impractical, i.e. NDHQ, recruiting centers, hq, etc. Something that is a wash & wear version of the DEU trousers with either a sweater, or battledress inspired jacket may be a better alternative. Also, with the likelihood that eventually combats will be replaced by the 'Future Combat Uniform' program, which will most likely be for operational use only, due to the high cost of materials used (performance fire retardant fabrics, etc.) a 'garrison' type uniform which provides more durability and a better appearance than the current combats may be something to consider.
I can see the point there, when we used battledress as both service and field uniform, but with the adoption of OD and then CADPAT combat uniforms, with national flag patches, I think that the argument that we may be mistaken in the field for other armies is somewhat moot when it comes to national identification.
Teddy Ruxpin said:+1 We don't want to over complicate this. The idea is to replace rifle green with khaki, with some small modifications to fabric and "matching" rank identifiers, not revise the entire dress system. Shoes, hats and the like would remain the same. Infanteer has posted the way ahead I was thinking of. There should be no need for a separate intermediate uniform when some extra items for DEU would suffice. Indeed work/garrison dress was eliminated because of complaints from soldiers, as were tans (see, they do listen). We need a DEU that is flexible enough to function in a fairly wide variety of work environments. Combats should suffice for field/gettin' dirty work. I also suspect that there would be little appetite for public purchase of ceremonials en masse; they are hugely expensive and of limited utility day to day, as much as I love scarlet.
I also think that we should get past the idea of an "independent" colour. As proposed, a khaki DEU would be immediately identifiable as Canadian, even at a distance.
My 2 cents.
Dirty Patricia said:Teddy, good ideas and definitely not too drastic to get immediately shot down. As said before that will be the key. If the idea can be tied in with the need for an intermediate weight uniform as opposed to the current winter weight, it might get rolling.
Corps of Guides said:So who here wants to staff this up, and who can accidentally "drop" this on the CDS' desk? ;D
Dirty Patricia said:The next time I see the General, I'm definitely going to bring it up. He's good that way.