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Syria Superthread [merged]

Wikileaks stikes again.

Just heard on the news that a spokesperson from Wikileaks that they are about to release a huge cache of e-mails regarding / from Syria which they claim will be severely embarrassing to the Assad Regime and the Western Allies challenging it.

I'll see if I can track down a news link and post here.

Update:

WikiLeaks has data from 2.4 million Syrian emails

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fgw-wikileaks-syria-emails-20120706,0,4177079.story

The secret-spilling group WikiLeaks said Thursday it was in the process of publishing material from 2.4 million Syrian emails -- many of which it said came from official government accounts.

WikiLeaks' Sarah Harrison told journalists at London's Frontline Club that the emails reveal interactions between the Syrian government and Western companies, although she declined to go into much further detail.

Harrison quoted WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange as saying that "the material is embarrassing to Syria, but it is also embarrassing to Syria's external opponents."

WikiLeaks only posted a handful of the documents to its website Thursday, but the disclosure -- whose source WikiLeaks has not made clear -- wouldn't be the first major leak of Syrian emails.

In February, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz published excerpts of what it said were emails hacked from Syrian servers by Anonymous, the shadowy Internet activist group. In March, Britain's Guardian newspaper published emails it sourced to Syrian opposition activists.

The messages appeared to catch the glamorous wife of Syrian President Bashar Assad shopping for pricey shoes while her country slipped toward civil war.

Harrison said the WikiLeaks emails dated from August 2006 to March 2012 and originated from hundreds of different domains, including Syria's ministry of presidential affairs.

Harrison said her group was "statistically confident" that the body of material was genuine.

Assange, who is currently seeking asylum at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, was not at the brief presentation. He is wanted by British police for possible extradition to Sweden to face questions about alleged sexual misconduct there.

He has denied wrongdoing but faces arrest if he leaves the embassy.

Harrison acknowledged that WikiLeaks is facing "a difficult time at the moment" but said "we are continuing to work through that."

And for what it's worth, here is the link to the e-mails released so far.

http://wikileaks.org/syria-files/
 
The possible end state of Syria; a Balkanized cluster of mutually hostile splinter groups and states, each looking for some outside agency to provide support and comfort. Turkey, Iran and the Kurds will all be major players in a post Syrian state (the boundaries of "Syria" may remain, but the facts on the ground may resemble Lebanon more than any nation state):

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/07/06/gary-gambill-bashar-assad-can-always-find-refuge-with-the-alawites/#more-83973

Gary Gambill: Bashar Assad can always find refuge with the Alawites
Gary Gambill, National Post  Jul 6, 2012 – 7:00 AM ET | Last Updated: Jul 6, 2012 9:29 AM ET

President Bashar al-Assad waving upon his arrival in parliament in Damascus to give a speech on June 3, 2012. Assad paid tribute to civilian and military "martyrs" of the violence in Syria, saying their blood was not shed in vain.

Comments Email Twitter Sixteen months into the Syrian uprising, Obama administration officials are still hopeful that President Bashar Assad (or an ambitious subordinate) can be pressured to peacefully surrender power, if only the Russians would read him the riot act. Don’t hold your breath.

The belief that leaders of the Syrian regime can be persuaded to yield power peacefully is plausible at first glance, as they clearly can’t win the looming civil war. The country’s disenfranchised Sunni Arab majority has a fivefold demographic advantage over Assad’s Alawite sect, which controls the commanding heights of government and mans the elite security forces charged with its defense. Surrounded by sympathetic Sunni states, porous borders and an international community gunning for Assad’s ouster (literally, if some have their way), the rebels are steadily growing stronger and will eventually gain the upper hand. Faced with the bleak prospect of fighting to the bitter end, the reasoning goes, key regime stakeholders should be willing to peacefully opt out in return for security guarantees, immunity from prosecution and other material inducements.

In practice, however, it’s impossible to provide credible promises of protection to those with the means and will to obstruct a peaceful transition. Everyone in a position of authority to deliver regime concessions now has too much blood on their hands to live safely in Syria after relinquishing power, whatever formal guarantees they might receive.

Thousands of others who played more modest roles in government or profited unfairly from it will also face considerable dangers when the walls come crashing down. The fall of Saddam Hussein’s Sunni-led minoritarian regime led to several hundred extrajudicial executions by Iraqi Shiites within a year, many of them lone wolf acts of vengeance against relatively low-ranking officers and civil servants — all of this despite the presence of U.S.-led coalition forces (a firewall that Syria presumably will not have).

While lower echelon officials can disappear abroad, there are few places of exile where Assad and his henchmen would be safe from extradition or assassination once they have nothing to offer their hosts in return. Syrian Alawites have no natural outside ally bound by historical and cultural ties to provide aid and refuge in times of trouble. Whatever accommodations the Russians may offer Assad to facilitate his departure, they will surely seek to rebuild bridges with the Sunni Arab world once the smoke clears. Years from now, even Tehran may prove to be an unreliable sanctuary.

For Assad, staying and fighting to the bitter end doesn’t mean going down with the ship. When the day comes that he can no longer stave off the fall of Damascus, his minions can easily fall back to Alawite areas in the mountains and coastal plains of northwestern Syria. Tehran, preferring a fragmented Syria to a unified hostile Syria, will happily continue providing them with arms and financing. Even with Turkey and the Arab Gulf states supporting opposing proxies, former regime forces and affiliated Alawite paramilitaries (shabiha) can hold out for years. Having intervened extensively in Lebanon for decades, they have the perfect skill set for surviving the Lebanonization of Syria.

The Syrian dictator may not have abandoned all hope of avoiding this scenario, but he is surely preparing for it. The shabiha, led by his relatives and clansmen, are steadily proliferating and assuming an ever-greater role in combating the rebels, particularly in Sunni villages and urban neighbourhoods that abut Alawite communities.

When the time comes, Assad won’t have much difficulty rallying Alawites (and many other non-Sunnis) behind the de facto cantonization of Syria. Given centuries of pre-existing Sunni hostility to heterodox Muslims and the scale of regime atrocities during the past four decades, Alawite fears of violent retribution are well-grounded and ripe for exploitation. Because the regime has heavily suppressed independent Alawite religious and social institutions over the years, the community has little capacity to mobilize around alternative leaders. By hook or by crook, Assad will lead it into the abyss
 
With the fall of Syria, what becomes of Lebanon?

Does it revert to a civil war since one of it's major political benefactors is gone, and opens up a power vacuum? Will the more radical religious groups move to fill that hole. Can Iran take Syria's place?
 
Syria fires artillery into Lebanon, killing 3

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18751199


At least three people have been killed and nine injured in northern Lebanon in shelling from across the Syrian border, local officials and residents say.

The attacks took place in the Wadi Khaled region, where both Syrian armed rebels and civilians have taken refuge from the violence at home.

There have recently been clashes between armed men on the Lebanese side and the Syrian military.

There are fears the Syrian conflict will spread to neighbouring countries.

'Panic and fear'

The first artillery shells from across the border landed on farm buildings early on Saturday, killing one woman, local residents say.

Two more people were killed in the second strike just hours later.

Children are believed to be among the injured, with the Lebanese National News agency reporting that local residents were fleeing their villages "in a state of panic and fear".

It was not immediately clear whether the victims were Lebanese or Syrian nationals and whether the buildings were hit deliberately or caught in crossfire during a battle between the Syrian army and opposition fighters, the BBC's Richard Colebourn in Beirut reports.

The border area has become increasingly volatile in recent weeks, and fears are now growing that Lebanon could be sucked into the 16-month Syrian conflict.

Like Syria's other neighbours - Turkey, Iraq and Jordan - Lebanon has absorbed thousands of refugees fleeing from the violence.
 
Some raw footage from Homs, Syria.

http://bambuser.com/v/2813860
 
It is very difficult right now to determine what is exactly happening on the ground in Syria. Even the same side is unable to elaborate the same information.

For example, Manaf Telas , the son of the ex-Defense minister had escaped to Paris, French newspapers reported. Then it was denied by 4 Syrian gov't news agencies with varying responses (some claimed he doesn't exist, others claims he is on a visit). To complicate things, Manaf Father has been in Paris for few months now though he claims he is not in support of the regime nor against it!!

The irony, the cousin of Manaf Telas is Abdul Razzak Telas , one of the leading rebel leader in Homs province. He joined the rebels mid 2011. The Telas family comes from a city near Homs called Rastan and has been a very strong opposition to the Syrian regime.

Another example, video surfaced few days ago a woman dressed in military attire and joined with armed men claimed she is the engineer Thuayba Kenfani from Canada and had joined the rebel FSA in aleppo. Today, video surfaced by someone claiming to be the leader of that group claiming no woman had joined their ranks!!

The area around Aleppo in particular seems to be experiencing problems between the different rebel groups in the area.

Kofi Annan trip is nothing but to buy more time for regional powers to reach an understanding on the Syrian crisis. Russia is circulating a new UN resolution to extend UN mission but change its purpose from observe cease fire to engage in peace negotiation dialogue:

Source: http://www.wset.com/story/18995772/russia-circulates-new-draft-resolution-on-syria

The Syrian regime is going to stick it to the end at the cost of probably igniting a regional war (in my opinion). They are arming different opposing groups (Like PKK against KNC and PYD) and now Arab tribes against Kurds. This would significantly concern Turkey whom been trying to contain the Kurdish population along their borders:

Source: http://www.rudaw.net/english/news/syria/4943.html
 
Israel Preparing for Action in Syria, Says Former Mossad Chief

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/157799#.T_-jUo62va4


Former Mossad chief Danny Yatom said on Thursday that Israel is preparing for the possibility of military action in Syria, in case its chemical weapons were to end up in the hands of Hizbullah or other terrorist organizations in the region.

Yatom spoke to the British Sky News, which reported that Israel is deeply concerned that Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad may deliberately give Hizbullah chemical weapons or that they could end up in the hands of other terror groups

In either case, this could lead to a regional war, Yatom told the network.

“The conventional wisdom should be that we cannot exclude a non-conventional attack on Israel,” he said. “We would have to pre-empt in order to prevent it. We need to be prepared to launch even military attacks... and military attacks mean maybe a deterioration to war.”

Sky News reported that Middle Eastern and other intelligence sources say that Syria has the biggest stockpiles of the nerve gasses VX and Sarin, as well as mustard gas, in the Middle East.

Investigations by Sky News have identified four sites where the agents are produced: Hama, Latakia, Al Safira, near Aleppo and at the Centre D'Etude et Recherche Scientifique laboratories in Damascus.

Storage sites have also been found at Khan abu Shamat, Furqlus, Hama, Masyaf, Palmyra, the report said.

Biological weapons are believed to be stored at Cerin while there are also numerous 'dual use' civilian pharmaceutical laboratories which are capable of producing bio-weapons such as botulism and anthrax.

Al Qaeda-related groups are known to be operating inside Syria, and its leadership has frequently extolled members or followers to try to get hold of chemical weapons.

A top IDF officer said recently that Israel is “in preparations for the possibility of war and in the midst of deployment with the situation in Syria in mind.”

The greatest challenge facing Division 36, which is placed in the Golan, is the possibility of facing a surprise attack, said the officer, Brig. Gen. Tamir Heiman, Commander of Division 36. “The biggest concern is a combined terror attack and we are preparing for this in the Golan area.”

The essential changes that have taken place in Syria provide the potential for a terror attack coming out of Syria and crossing the border, which has been very quiet in recent years.

The IDF’s Northern District Commander Yair Golan has warned that the battle being waged in Syria between opponents of the Assad regime and Assad loyalists may have an effect on what is happening in Israel.

“Al-Qaeda related factors that are active there now and working against the regime may operate against us over time,” he said. “The Syrian threat to Israel requires attention. It will not happen tomorrow morning, but it can occur within a few months.”

Golan added, “Syria has weapons of mass destruction along with a very heavy arsenal of weapons, including surface-to-ground missiles and chemical weapons. The fact that Syria is a storehouse of weapons which fuels terrorists in the region is very unsettling.”

What are your opinions, does anyone believe that maybe the israelis are bluffing and trying to scare Assad, if they did go in wouldn't that give Assad a means to rationalize his barbaric attacks?  Maybe it is possible to believe that the Arab world would turn towards aiding Assad against the israelis?
 
There were rumors prior to this news release of chemical weapon movement, this basically confirms it:

Source: http://news.sky.com/story/959953/syria-military-moves-chemical-weapons-to-homs

Intelligence has emerged suggesting the Syrian regime has moved chemical weapons to the Homs region, a source has told Sky News.

A senior British intelligence official questioned about claims in the US that several streams of signal intelligence detailing the transfer of a chemical agent said they believed the account to be a "pretty accurate description" of what the UK believes is going on.

Fox News reported a senior US defence source as saying it was not clear wether the movement of the agent, possibly Sarin nerve gas, had been authorised by President Bashar al Assad or local Syrian military commanders frustrated by the ongoing uprising in Homs.

The agents, which may not yet have been weaponised, were moved from previously known stockpile locations, the report said.

Recent investigations by Sky News identified four sites where chemical agents are produced: Hama, Latakia, Al Safira, near Aleppo and at the Centre D'Etude et Recherche Scientifique laboratories in Damascus.

Storage sites were also found at Khan abu Shamat, Furqlus, Hama, Masyaf, Palmyra.
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From unconfirmed sources, these stock pile chemicals are being shipped to the Lebanese border in what appears to be an exchange with Hezbollah and final destination to Iran.
 
cupper said:
With the fall of Syria, what becomes of Lebanon?

Does it revert to a civil war since one of it's major political benefactors is gone, and opens up a power vacuum? Will the more radical religious groups move to fill that hole. Can Iran take Syria's place?

The fall of Assad regime in Syria will re-balance the region in a way. Hezbollah will lose an important route for tunneling weapons from Iran->Iraq->Syria->Lebanon. The Suez canal is tightly controlled by Egypt for any Iranian shipments, so no option of getting weapons through the sea.

Iran backed parties in Iraq will feel there is a counter force to their presence. The Assad regime in my opinion has long been a destabilizing force in the ME. They've constantly interefered in Lebanon and then Iraq to keep the region boiling. Destability has been a great source of revenue for the regime elites in arms, commercial trade and corruption bribes.

Iran and Hezbollah will have to re-align their strategies and either moderate their rhetoric or expect to be isolated and surrounded by majority Sunni group whom had lost all empathy to them since the 2008 war with Irsael. If you do recall, the Arab world was in strong support of Hezbollah during the 2008 war, however, these days they are considered the enemy after what happened in Syria.

That could be another reason the Russians don't want an intervention in Syria, they fear it will put their ally Iran in a very tight spot.
 
There are thoughts that Assad Plan B is a Alwiite homeland in part of what would once have been Syria.
 
Yes, indeed; and we still enjoy the benefits of Sykes-Picot after nearly 100 years.

 
Was listening to news reports yesterday about fighting in Damascus, and one item noted was the killing of a Palestinian Refugee. There are several large camps in and around Damascus. So far they have stayed out of the conflict, with the Assad Regime reminding them that they are guests in Syria.

Would it be a surprise that if they did decide to enter the fray that Assad might decide to either force them out, or plow them under as punishment. And if he does, how would it go over in the Arab world? And would it finally make the Russians and Chinese say enough is enough?
 
cupper said:
Was listening to news reports yesterday about fighting in Damascus, and one item noted was the killing of a Palestinian Refugee. There are several large camps in and around Damascus. So far they have stayed out of the conflict, with the Assad Regime reminding them that they are guests in Syria.

Would it be a surprise that if they did decide to enter the fray that Assad might decide to either force them out, or plow them under as punishment. And if he does, how would it go over in the Arab world? And would it finally make the Russians and Chinese say enough is enough?

The Palestinian refugees in the ME are literally "disposable" to the countries they settled within. I'm not exaggerating, Palestinians were kicked out of Kuwait after Gulf War I because Arafat supported Saddam since he sent rockets over to Israel! At the same time, Libyan Gaddafi shipped them out to Gaza once the peace process was started.

Hafiz Al-Assad , Syrian ex-Dictator has bulldozed Palestinian refugees near Beirut in 1976, killing about 3,000 people in its aftermath.

I know for a fact that Jordanian authorities are refusing any Syrian refugee entry into Jordan whom of Palestinian origin or holding a Palestinian identication.

So, what would Bashar do with the tens of thousands refugees in Damascus? I don't doubt he'll not hesitate to unleash his most ruthless military campaign, and the Arab world will cry and weep then everyone forget about it.
 
Syrian cabinet bodyguard goes rogue; kills defence minister and deputy, security chief and interior minister

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18882149


Syria's defence minister and his deputy, President Assad's brother-in-law, have died in a suspected suicide bombing at security headquarters in Damascus, state TV says.

Daoud Rajiha and Assef Shawkat were attending a meeting of senior officials at the time.

The national security chief and interior minister are said to be critically hurt.

The attack comes amid claims of a major rebel offensive on the city.

"The minister of defence was martyred by the terrorist bombing that targeted the national security building," the TV report said, adding later that Gen Shawkat was dead.

Security sources say the suspected bomber worked as a bodyguard for members of President Bashar al-Assad's inner circle.

Gen Rajiha has been defence minister for less than a year, serving previously as chief of staff, and is on a US blacklist for his role in the suppression of dissent.

He is believed to be an Orthodox Christian - a rarity in the Alawite-dominated Syrian military and government.

Gen Shawkat is considered a top security chief and a member of the inner circle of the regime. He is married to Mr Assad's sister Bushra.

Diplomatic efforts

The attack comes as UN chiefs have been trying to persuade China and Russia to agree tougher measures on Syria, ahead of a Security Council vote on Wednesday on imposing sanctions.

UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan held talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon met Chinese leader Hu Jintao in Beijing.

The UN has until Friday to renew the mandate for observers in Syria, although a vote is expected in New York on Wednesday afternoon.

Western nations want a new resolution threatening measures short of the use of force.

The Western-backed draft resolution to be discussed gives the Syrian government 10 days to withdraw heavy weapons from cities and return troops to barracks, otherwise a further resolution on sanctions will be submitted to the Security Council.

But the BBC's Jim Muir in neighbouring Lebanon says that with Russia resisting all efforts to persuade it to take a tougher line with Syria, there is virtually no hope of concerted international action to pull the country back from the brink.

In other developments:

• Turkish officials report two Syrian generals are among hundreds of refugees who fled into Turkey overnight, bringing the total number of fleeing generals to 20
• Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is expected to discuss the Syrian crisis with Russian President Vladimir Putin
• Iraq warns its citizens to flee the violence, hours after the bodies of two killed journalists were handed over by the Syrian authorities

'Damascus volcano'

The area around the national security building, in Rawda district, has been sealed off.

Witnesses at the site of the bombing said journalists were banned from approaching.

"The terrorist explosion which targeted the national security building in Damascus occurred during a meeting of ministers and a number of heads of [security] agencies," the TV said.

The reports say that Hisham Ikhtiar, director the National Security Bureau, and Interior Minister Mohammad Ibrahim al-Shaar, were among those injured in the attack.

Earlier activists reported more clashes during the night in several areas around the south-west of Damascus.

They said the government had brought more troops and armour into some districts, and that several people had been killed in clashes and bombardments.

A rebel spokeswoman, Susan Ahmad, told the BBC the entrances to Damascus were closed in the morning.

"We heard the sounds of explosions every now and then all around Damascus," she said.

"Now tanks are storming into al-Qaboun [district], shelling everything, shelling residential houses, shooting every moving thing and they are trying to arrest people and kill.

"People are trying to run away and get out of al-Qaboun."

Activists have also posted on the internet pictures of what they say is a barracks on the heights overlooking the city engulfed in flames.

They believed it had been hit by fire from Free Syrian Army (FSA) rebels, and said the barracks is involved in providing security for the presidential palace complex below.

State media said security forces fought off attacks by small groups of armed terrorists in the city.

But the TV carried night-time footage of troops deployed in the Midan quarter, in some very tense and deserted streets.

The rebels have declared a final battle for the capital, calling it Operation Damascus Volcano, and have been fighting troops in several parts of Damascus for the past three days.

The fighting reached central areas on Tuesday, with gunfire and plumes of smoke reported in a street near parliament.

The Free Syrian Army said the operation was well planned, and they had sent hundreds of fighters to the capital last week to be in place for the assault.

The rebels and the government often publish contradictory accounts of the same incidents.

Western journalists are under heavy restrictions in Syria, making it difficult to verify the claims of either side.
 
Israel Says Syria Pulls Troops from Golan to Suppress Revolt Elsewhere. I do believe there is a coup in progress right now, it may take few weeks for things to become clear.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/18/world/middleeast/israel-says-syria-pulls-troops-from-golan-to-suppress-revolt-elsewhere.html?_r=1

JERUSALEM — Israel’s military intelligence chief said on Tuesday that President Bashar al-Assad of Syria had moved forces to Damascus from along the Golan Heights region, bordering on Israeli-controlled territory, after street battles raged in the capital between rebels and Syrian Army forces.
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In a security briefing to a parliamentary committee, the intelligence chief, Maj. Gen. Aviv Kochavi, estimated that Mr. Assad “will not survive the uprising, even if it takes some more time.” He said that 13,000 soldiers and officers had defected from the Syrian Army, and that 60 to 70 senior officers had been killed by the opposition, according to the spokesperson’s office of the Israeli military.

But the general said the opposition had failed to coalesce into a united front and instead comprised many groups with different ideologies. “We don’t see organized opposition forces leading an uprising,” General Kochavi said.

In the briefing, the general said that satellite images show that Mr. Assad’s forces are directing artillery at highly populated regions and acting “extremely brutally, which displays their desperation and indicates they are unable to find more efficient solutions to pacify the uprisings.”

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Looks like Assad is on the list to be the next dictator pulled out of a culvert and executed by his own people - sic semper tyrannis, I guess....
 
Looks like Jonathan Kay thinks the fat lady has sung.

Jonathan Kay on Syria: How Obama’s hands-off policy paved the way for the Assads’ (and Hezbollah’s) downfall

The good news is that Bashar Assad’s Syrian regime is on its last legs — the other legs having been blown out from under it by a Wednesday bomb attack in Damascus, which killed at least three top regime security officials.

Here’s the better news: Hezbollah could go down with the Syrian ship, thereby providing the civilized world with a “two-fer” rogue-power takedown — dethroning not only the dictator in Damascus, but also his Lebanese-based, Iranian-funded terrorist ally next door.

Now here’s the best news: All this has happened without the West firing a shot. Notwithstanding all those Washington hawks demanding armed intervention, it turns out that Barack Obama played his cards exactly right — by doing virtually nothing.

The West’s response to Syria’s uprising — discreetly providing the rebels with limited behind-the-scenes logistical support through the Turkish border, while pushing blame onto bad-cop Russia for the failure to do more — undercut Bashar Assad’s early claim that the rebellion was a giant foreign conspiracy. Had the West gotten involved militarily, the entire narrative would have been about which American bomb hit which Syrian target, and whether the people who died as a result were civilians or fighters — the same narrative Israel faced when it attacked Hezbollah-controlled southern Lebanon six years ago.

More at link.

I believe that the West's policy of less-than-obvious support of the Syrian Opposition has been more or less sound, but does President Obama deserve this much credit?
 
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