The War in Ukraine
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Colin Parkinson
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They are not dead unless they have a body, if they don't bother collecting bodies, your Company Commander can still collect your wages and rations. The State does not have to pay out any death benefits. So not much incentive to crack down on the lower level coverups.
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RangerRay
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Anyone who thinks that the fall of Ukraine wouldn’t effect Trump like Afghanistan effected Biden is dreaming in Technicolor. And Putin doesn’t want a deal.
www.theatlantic.com
Trump Is Facing a Catastrophic Defeat in Ukraine
If Ukraine falls, it will be hard to spin as anything but a debacle for the United States, and for its president.
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The truest believers will just say "time to spend the money at home & let Europe do Europe."Anyone who thinks that the fall of Ukraine wouldn’t effect Trump like Afghanistan effected Biden is dreaming in Technicolor. And Putin doesn’t want a deal.
Trump Is Facing a Catastrophic Defeat in Ukraine
If Ukraine falls, it will be hard to spin as anything but a debacle for the United States, and for its president.
Meanwhile ...
Trump Says Ukraine Peace Talks Could Begin Soon After Taking Office
U.S. President-elect Donald Trump has said again that he is eager to see negotiations with Russia on ending the war in Ukraine begin soon after he returns to the White House but gave no specifics on when they would take place.
www.rferl.org
Trump’s Ukraine envoy postpones planned trip to Kyiv, top Ukrainian diplomat says
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — An upcoming trip to Kyiv by U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s special envoy for Ukraine and Russia has been canceled but will be rescheduled, Ukrainian Foreign Minister
www.thestar.com
Trump blames Biden for provoking Russia's war by supporting Ukraine's NATO aspirations
"I could understand their [Russia's] feelings about that," U.S. President-elect Donald Trump said during a Jan. 7 press conference.
kyivindependent.com
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Trump makes deals. He's a businessman. Thats what he does. He's running the U.S. like a business, right?
One problem: Ukraine isn't his to barter with Putin.
He doesn't have to face the repercussions if Russia reneges on the deal and continues to attack Ukraine. Additionally, his posturing about using military and economy force to annex other countries (rhetoric or not) sends a loud message across the world that the Great Game is back on in full force.
You'll see China make a move for Taiwan. You'll see Pakistan and India finally settle scores in Kashmir. Iran will have nothing left to lose in the Middle East. It won't end.
In "The Art of the Deal", he speaks heavily about leverage being the one thing you never negotiate without. In Ukraine, he has no leverage that is discernable to negotiate a peace; only the ability to give concessions to try and appease Putin.
One problem: Ukraine isn't his to barter with Putin.
He doesn't have to face the repercussions if Russia reneges on the deal and continues to attack Ukraine. Additionally, his posturing about using military and economy force to annex other countries (rhetoric or not) sends a loud message across the world that the Great Game is back on in full force.
You'll see China make a move for Taiwan. You'll see Pakistan and India finally settle scores in Kashmir. Iran will have nothing left to lose in the Middle East. It won't end.
In "The Art of the Deal", he speaks heavily about leverage being the one thing you never negotiate without. In Ukraine, he has no leverage that is discernable to negotiate a peace; only the ability to give concessions to try and appease Putin.
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A long, expensive winter ahead for Europe ...
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I think you misread DJT in some of this.
He has his ideas of what peace should look like, and neither Ukraine nor Russia will probably like it. However I think Ukraine understands Trump much better than Putin does. Ukraine has shown PE Trump that they are willing to deal, while Putin has not and has mocked Trump. It costs Trump nothing if he needs to dump a lot of equipment and munitions to Ukraine if Putin doesn’t play ball, he is the GOP currently and no one of the MAGA anti-Ukraine folks in the House would dare to cross him if he suddenly said he wants to send 120B in Military Aid to Ukraine.
He’s armed Ukraine before, because he knows what the loss of Ukraine would do to Europe and the world at large.
The question to me is more is Putin willing to pull his neck in to accept the current lines, or will he push and let Trump use it as his golden hour moment to show his and American supremacy?
Remember Trump told the House to eventually support the Bipartisan Aid bill to Ukraine and had armed them before when he was in office. The only reason Trump was anti-Ukraine for the last 4 years was Biden was supporting them. (And was no doubt miffed about the whole phone call issue).
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