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Thanks to you both! I try to see the best in people, and I hope that my actions at BMQ (if I get that far, etc.) will be seen as assets even to those who may have their personal qualms. It sounds like that'd be the case!
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Jarnhamar said:
I never hide things - I'm an open book. Precisely because of the reason you stated. But I'm not about to run around announcing it either - if it comes up, it comes up. I just mean that I didn't want people to think I'm someone who is looking for "special treatment" or is some kind of special cookie.
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If you're physically female but identify as male then, well, I have no idea. They could possibly put you in male washrooms and showers but if I know the army they will force you to receive special treatment and get you your own bathroom and shower, while everyone crams into their respective genders bathrooms, and you'll be looked down on for it by your peers.
It'll be interesting to hear how it's handled by your staff, I hope if you make it that far you post your experiences about it.
It'll be interesting to hear how it's handled by your staff, I hope if you make it that far you post your experiences about it.
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The only way people will think you're looking for special treatment or are a unique snowflake, is to act like it. Put your head down, do the job, don't attract attention when it's not your turn to be under the all seeing eye, and you'll do fine. Are there judgemental assholes? Definitely. Will you meet them? Quite likely. Don't let a likelihood hold you down.
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Jarnhamar said:
I'll for sure keep people updated if I make it that far. Ideally they'd let me just shower etc with everyone else unless there was an issue (someone started making an issue of it)...
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Kat Stevens said:
Awesome. I spent some time in cadets and that's how it usually was around new folks.
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PMedMoe said:
Not sure we were dancing around that question. I do not, but I'm glad not everyone sees the world as you do. Also glad you do see the world as you do because our differences drive us to greatness.
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mariomike said:
Thank you - I didn't see this thread come up in my search.
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Why did I think I was going to beat Mariomike to posting a link to a thread already explaining this?
You're going to have issues. We don't have all-gender shower rooms like Starship Troopers, and you're pre-transition. There is a balancing act to be done on what makes you comfortable, and makes the remainder of your platoon comfortable.
You're going to have issues. We don't have all-gender shower rooms like Starship Troopers, and you're pre-transition. There is a balancing act to be done on what makes you comfortable, and makes the remainder of your platoon comfortable.
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PuckChaser said:
I totally understand that. Also, I'm post-transition, which will likely make things easier but who knows!
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What I meant was that you have not had SRS, so without clothing you look female. Thats where the issue lies, imagine some 18 year old male having to shower in the same open room who has never seen a naked female body in person before. Awkward is an understatement.
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PuckChaser said:
Perhaps, but from the waist up I definitely look male. And I've been in enough bathrooms and gyms to know that most men don't generally look at each others' junk. And if they do, that awkwardness is on them.
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So that means if you're from this latest generation you have boobs and out of shape ;DShoddyGunner said:
Yea it's not exactly like the civilian gym.. Get ready for your peers to wait in ambush for you and throw soap dishes full of freezing cold water on to your crotch as you enter the shower.
Or 20 man naked slip and slides across the shampoo covered shower floors (watch out for drain covers with sharp edges)
Or your section full of guys get naked and proceed to beat the shit out of each other with belts and garbage can lids.
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Jarnhamar said:
Point taken!
Jarnhamar said:
Actually...that sounds exactly like my college gym! ;D
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We had group showers in Farnham I believe at the end of the field ex I recall. Trust me, no one is going to bother with you unless you let them. Bring up your concerns right away if you have any. I would think you would be housed with the women anyway and if you had all the parts they have then they aren't going to care lol.
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Leeworthy said:
"They" might not care, but he (ShoddyGunner) might. He identifies as male, and if I take him at his word, then by outward appareances, he appears totally male and everyone would take him to be a male. In fact, unless the other females on course we're specifically explained the situation, they would care that a male was being bunked with them.
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