Trudeau Popularity - or not. Nanos research

[Gunplumber]

The crash and burn of the LPC is going to be epic…EPIC….of the likes we’ve never seen before, especially if they keep increasing carbon taxes.

Wait till the price of gas goes up on April 1st!

 

[Kirkhill]

.... or advisors/minions/team boosters saying it's time for a change (of approach, of narrative, of team coach, whatever), and he's not listening.

But what is mommy telling him?

 

[Brad Sallows]

The crash and burn of the LPC is going to be epic…EPIC….of the likes we’ve never seen before, especially if they keep increasing carbon taxes.

Gonna be hard to beat Kim Campbell's prime-ministership.

 

[Haggis]

But what is mommy telling him?

Ottawa is forecast to get up to 15 cm of snow overnight. Hopefully she tells him " put your snowboots on, sweetie, and go for a nice walk".

 

[daftandbarmy]

Gonna be hard to beat Kim Campbell's prime-ministership.

Joe who?

Joe Clark - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[dapaterson]

OTOH, since unification, only one Admiral made it longer than a year as CDS, if we want to talk longevity.

 

[Good2Golf]

Joe who?

Joe Clark - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

At least he was elected.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Kim Campbell the mother of the LSVW and not exactly an elder statesperson.

 

[Maxman1]

Joe who?

Joe Clark - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Arthur Menanan?

Arthur Meighen - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Brad Sallows]

Joe who?

Thinking more of the MP numbers than the lifespan.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Wait till the price of gas goes up on April 1st!

They are waffling on the alcohol tax.

 

[Haggis]

They are waffling on the alcohol tax.

Freeland announced yesterday that the increase of the excise tax on alcohol will be capped at 2% (vice 4.7%) for the next two years, or until after the 2025 election.

 

[ueo]

Saw that. But it’s about two weeks old. And was reflected in the last aggregate already. Not showing newer data yet (ie that might show a drop like the Abaccus poll) but Doesn’t change the fact that the CPC is comfortably ahead.

Sunday’s 338 numbers will show if a trend line is emerging or not I would think. Probably the last real data set before the holidays.

Put these DHs under a blanket, beat it severly with several 6' pickets and what ever emerges somewhat sentinatly is the new PM.

 

[Remius]

Freeland announced yesterday that the increase of the excise tax on alcohol will be capped at 2% (vice 4.7%) for the next two years, or until after the 2025 election.

The LPC needs a serious reboot. They should step back and make some hard 180 degree pivots on some things or at least get more original in their approach. Leadership change is that first step.

 

[Eaglelord17]

At least he was elected.

No PM is elected by you or me. We elect MPs, the MPs determine who the PM is. Kim Campbell is just as elected as any other prime minister we have ever had, we just like to pretend when we cast a ballot we are electing a certain person.

 

[ArmyRick]

The LPC needs a serious reboot. They should step back and make some hard 180 degree pivots on some things or at least get more original in their approach. Leadership change is that first step.

Agreed, And the leader is the one who would probably fight it the most. Or he has some scheme in the background to try and bow out gracefully and make it look like a victory. At his time of choosing.

 

[Good2Golf]

No PM is elected by you or me. We elect MPs, the MPs determine who the PM is. Kim Campbell is just as elected as any other prime minister we have ever had, we just like to pretend when we cast a ballot we are electing a certain person.

While technically factual of the Canadian version of the Westminster Parliamentary system, to be practically pedantic, Joe Clark as the PC party leader at the time all of the PC MPs won their respective ridings in Canada’s 31st election and so Joe Clark can very reasonably be considered to have been appointed the Prime Minister by the Governor General through the results of an election. Kim Campbell, while an MP and the leader of the PC party when she was appointed by the GG as PM not through the results of a federal election, this an inter-electoral appointment, not a party leader taking the party gaining a mandate successfully through an election. In fairness to her, at least she was an MP, unlike John Turner, who was NOT and MP when he was appointed by the GG as PM.

@Eaglelord17, is there an example where the GG extended the offer to form Government to an MP who was not the leader of the party that won the election or that and/or selected a leader following a PM’s resignation as an MP?

ps. You’re wrong about the MP’s determining who the PM will be. If you want to be accurate, it is the Governor General who extends the appointment of PM to the MP whom they deem appropriate to become PM, not the MPs.

 

[Rifleman62]

After it is all said and done, I hope the defeated Liberal MPs receive their Severance Allowances and Transition Support administered by VAC.

 

[Haggis]

Agreed, And the leader is the one who would probably fight it the most. Or he has some scheme in the background to try and bow out gracefully and make it look like a victory. At his time of choosing.

One concern I'd voiced before was that the LPC could actually find a new leader who would bring them another win. They could deep select or go outside the caucus. Once the 2025 election was won, that leader would step down for "personal reasons" and le dauphin returns to his rightful place as ruler of Canada.

Tinfoil, anyone?

 

[dimsum]

One concern I'd voiced before was that the LPC could actually find a new leader who would bring them another win. They could deep select or go outside the caucus. Once the 2025 election was won, that leader would step down for "personal reasons" and le dauphin returns to his rightful place as ruler of Canada.

Tinfoil, anyone?

So, what some folks have been saying the Dems would do south of the border?