Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[Halifax Tar]

…as this is still an unofficial, but CAF-aligned site, and there are folks posting here still in uniform, maybe slagging the current Canadian govt (and the CAF’s employer) publicly isn’t the way to go.

But hey, what do I know.

 

[JLB50]

Is Trudeau trying to make Canada the best it's ever been? I think we all know the answer to that...

Isn’t it possible that the leaders of all three parties believe that they want to make Canada great again? I don’t feel that Justin should stay in power any longer. Both he and his caucus seem tired and horribly disconnected from the average Canadian. But are they in favour of making Canada inferior again? Frankly, I don’t like Poilievre either. But just because I don’t like someone’s ideas or actions doesn’t mean that they are necessarily doing so for ulterior reasons.

For example, Justin seems, in my opinion, to have a horribly naive assumption that if you let people in from different races, cultures and religions, then everyone will see the light and get along beautifully even though the world around them is bristling with violence and intolerance, with only the occasional admonition by our pretty boy leader to help society stay on course. He has also let China gain too much power over Canadians…mind you so have successive governments.

Over the years I have worked directly with numerous politicos, mainly those who were in the old PC party even though I never identified as a dyed-in-the-wool conservative. These included some cabinet ministers, MPs as well as top political advisors and strategists. I often disagreed with their views but never did I doubt that they believed in what they were doing as the best course of action. I guess what I’m trying to say is that most people wouldn’t do what they do if they felt they were doing the wrong thing. While I do feel that Canada is going to hell in a hand basket, I think the problem lies not so much in what one leader has done but how he has interpreted and dealt with the myriad of economic, political, social and military challenges facing us. Definitely not an easy task. Unless, of course, you want to see me elected as Prime Minister of Canada.

 

[Halifax Tar]

@JLB50 From my position JT doesn't come off as proud Canadian, I'm not actually sure he likes Canada. I think Canada was just a way from him to play social scientist and grow his personal wealth. He has also been very divisive.

I honestly don't think JT likes me, or Canadians like me. And I voted for him in his first run at PM.

It is one of the few things I would like to do over again in my life.

 

[ArmyRick]

…as this is still an unofficial, but CAF-aligned site, and there are folks posting here still in uniform, maybe slagging the current Canadian govt (and the CAF’s employer) publicly isn’t the way to go.

But hey, what do I know.

It is not a CAF site, PERIOD. And thank god many of us are no longer in the service of the CAF and can speak the truth here.

 

[ArmyRick]

I honestly don't think JT likes me, or Canadians like me. And I voted for him in his first run at PM.

In 2015 at the time I was a Green Party supporter. However I came very close to voting Liberal based on my interaction with the LPC candidate at the time (She was a farmer herself). Ultimately I stuck with the Greens at that election.

 

[Lumber]

The only things he’s expanded on is our national debt, homelessness and the public service.

Since 2021, Canada has grown to become between (depending on who's figured you used) the 5th and 8th largest destination for Foreign Direct Investment in the world. People and corporations want to invest in Canada. So, while this doesn't discount the examples you gave, it certainly negates your assertion that those are the only thing he's done.

 

[ArmyRick]

Since 2021, Canada has grown to become between (depending on who's figured you used) the 5th and 8th largest destination for Foreign Direct Investment in the world. People and corporations want to invest in Canada. So, while this doesn't discount the examples you gave, it certainly negates your assertion that those are the only thing he's done.

Majority of Canadians could simply not give a rats ass about useless info and stats like that when 1/4 Canadians use a food bank, homes rea nearly impossible to buy or rent, crimes out of control, etc

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Isn’t it possible that the leaders of all three parties believe that they want to make Canada great again? I don’t feel that Justin should stay in power any longer. Both he and his caucus seem tired and horribly disconnected from the average Canadian. But are they in favour of making Canada inferior again? Frankly, I don’t like Poilievre either. But just because I don’t like someone’s ideas or actions doesn’t mean that they are necessarily doing so for ulterior reasons.

For example, Justin seems, in my opinion, to have a horribly naive assumption that if you let people in from different races, cultures and religions, then everyone will see the light and get along beautifully even though the world around them is bristling with violence and intolerance, with only the occasional admonition by our pretty boy leader to help society stay on course. He has also let China gain too much power over Canadians…mind you so have successive governments.

Over the years I have worked directly with numerous politicos, mainly those who were in the old PC party even though I never identified as a dyed-in-the-wool conservative. These included some cabinet ministers, MPs as well as top political advisors and strategists. I often disagreed with their views but never did I doubt that they believed in what they were doing as the best course of action. I guess what I’m trying to say is that most people wouldn’t do what they do if they felt they were doing the wrong thing. While I do feel that Canada is going to hell in a hand basket, I think the problem lies not so much in what one leader has done but how he has interpreted and dealt with the myriad of economic, political, social and military challenges facing us. Definitely not an easy task. Unless, of course, you want to see me elected as Prime Minister of Canada.

Its got nothing to do with being magnanimous. It's all to do with overloading the social system and Soros'/ WEF Open Borders. This is not a party for Canada. It's a party for getting rich as a liberal syncophant. Pull back a little and look at how many ministers, insiders and supporters have been embroiled in skiving millions of tax dollars from the purse, to the detriment of Canadians, but to personal wealth of individual liberals. Even when they are caught, you never hear of any of them paying it back.

 

[Lumber]

Majority of Canadians could simply not give a rats ass about useless info and stats like that when 1/4 Canadians use a food bank, homes rea nearly impossible to buy or rent, crimes out of control, etc

But I wasn't talking to the majority of Canadians, was I?

 

[ArmyRick]

Good thing we live in a democracy where the MAJORITY calls the shots.

 

[ArmyRick]

or example, Justin seems, in my opinion, to have a horribly naive assumption that if you let people in from different races, cultures and religions, then everyone will see the light and get along beautifully even though the world around them is bristling with violence and intolerance, with only the occasional admonition by our pretty boy leader to help society stay on course. He has also let China gain too much power over Canadians

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Good thing we live in a democracy where the MAJORITY calls the shots.

Do we? Really?

 

[Lumber]

Good thing we live in a democracy where the MAJORITY calls the shots.

What are you going on about? I was contesting an assertion made by one person on this site, not pontificating about the whims of the electorate. Get off your high horse.

 

[ArmyRick]

What are you going on about? I was contesting an assertion made by one person on this site, not pontificating about the whims of the electorate. Get off your high horse.

I own cattle and sheep, I don't have any horses.

 

[ArmyRick]

Redirecting the discussion. Here is an example of why Trudeau sinks his brand, the Liberals and the country.

 

[Cloud Cover]

I own cattle and sheep, I don't have any horses.

How about horseshoes?

 

[ArmyRick]

How about horseshoes?

Got a bunch, but we drink Creemore beer before play with those. Support your local brewery (I live 10 minutes from the Creemore Brewery)

 

[Halifax Tar]

Since 2021, Canada has grown to become between (depending on who's figured you used) the 5th and 8th largest destination for Foreign Direct Investment in the world. People and corporations want to invest in Canada. So, while this doesn't discount the examples you gave, it certainly negates your assertion that those are the only thing he's done.

Honestly Canada IMHO was a better country before JT beat Harper. And it's basically been down hill since then.

 

[OldSolduer]

Honestly Canada IMHO was a better country before JT beat Harper. And it's basically been down hill since then.

I said when the LPC wanted him because "Trudeau" that was a huge error in judgement. And a huge "groupthink" cultish wave of popularity.

The world has seen the results of "groupthink" and its generally not very good.

The only thing he accomplished was to legalize pot - and that is not much of an accomplishment.

 

[Good2Golf]

Since 2021, Canada has grown to become between (depending on who's figured you used) the 5th and 8th largest destination for Foreign Direct Investment in the world. People and corporations want to invest in Canada. So, while this doesn't discount the examples you gave, it certainly negates your assertion that those are the only thing he's done.

Sucking in all the PRC’s money via state agents to buy up Canadian real estate and jack housing prices sky high is nothing even remotely to be proud of…