Trump administration 2024-2028
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MAEMA?
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“The US Govt - brought to you by McDonalds”
I even typed that while my internal head-voice was saying it in the Idiocracy announcer’s voice for “Ow my balls”
Jarnhamar
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It's really weird. I hope Trump gets his laughs and moves on to something more productive.
I'm a fan of Musk but his sudden coziness and proximity to the US government seems very odd. Probably concerning.
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Nothing odd about it. After he took Twitter away from the people who dominated it and showed signs of moving right in his politics, a few people started openly musing over ways to punish him and his businesses (mainly his businesses). He picked a side a little bit, and then was forced to pick a side heavily to look after his interests. He's not close to all government; he's close to Republican-dominated government.
The extreme ideological purity demanded on some campuses and in some newsrooms and in much of entertainment media is having an effect.
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Haggis
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China enters the chat.
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Ask yourself where he got the money for Twitter. You ‘might’ find some Russian money there…
daftandbarmy
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I learned a new word today: Angertainment.
It explains alot about what's going on in the media these days.
Candace Owens, Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, and More Have Mastered the Art of ‘Angertainment’
Why are they so angry? A bold trend in entertainment, unofficially known as “angertainment,” thrives on stirring up controversy, sparking heated debates, and presenting polarizing opinions by using anger.
“Angertainment” connects with viewers on an emotional level. Shows and podcasts in this genre typically feature hosts and guests who aren’t afraid to tackle controversial topics and share bold, often unconventional opinions, thereby stirring up their audience’s anger.
Unveiling angertainment: A Trend of Stirring Controversy
Why are they so angry? A bold trend in entertainment, unofficially known as "angertainment," thrives on stirring up controversy, sparking heated debates, and presenting polarizing opinions by using anger. "Angertainment" connects with viewers on an emotional level. Shows and podcasts in this...
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Is it because of sin? It’s sin, right?
Are you having your own Awakening? (I'll get back to that).
This article comes closest to defining the situation for me, as I see it, so far.
Gabbard Is a Dream Come True for Foreign Policy Realists
Interventionists haven’t forgiven her for her opposition to Syrian intervention.
www.theamericanconservative.com
We are moving back to the days of Realpolitik, Kissinger and "He may be a bastard but he is our bastard" (variously attributed). The underlying sentiment is that order is better than chaos and that it is easier to redirect an ordered society towards a moderated position than it is to create a moderate society out of anarchy.
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WRT The Great Awokening
White liberals are embracing progressive racial politics and transforming America
The Great Awokening, explained.
www.vox.com
The Great Awokening was presaged by the Great Awakening, and the Second Awakening, and the Third Awakening and the Fourth Awakening. The Awakenings.
The First Great Awakening - 1730s and associated with the rise of the Methodists
The Second Awakening - 1790s and associated with the Presbyterians, Methodists and Baptists
The Third Awakening - 1850s and again associated with Methodists but also with Pentecostals, Nazarenes, Jehovah's Witnesses and Christian Science
The Fourth Awakening - 1960s and associated with Billy Graham and Jesus Freaks.
All of these movements were religious movements tied to the Revival Meeting - large outdoor meetings with lots of song that were literally big tent meetings. Everyone was welcome. There were no litmus tests for ideology. Everyone was welcome to take communion or get baptised.
All of them were also social movements that crossed race, class and gender lines. Women, the rich, the working class, blacks and whites all celebrated together. And a common element was the Brotherhood of Man.
The Fourth Awakening was all about the Civil Rights movement
The Third Awakening was all about John Brown's Anti-Slavery Crusade and the US Civil War
The Second Awakening was all about the Abolitionist movement, and Somersett and Knight, about Wedgewood's "Brother's Keeper" Medallion and Burns's "A Man's a Man for a' That", and about John Graves Simcoe's declaration outlawing slavery in his new province of Upper Canada.
The First Great Awakening was typified by John Oglethorpe's experimental society in the Colony of Georgia, specifically established to give the under-privileged of Britain a fresh start in an Enlightened society. Slavery was expressly outlawed in Georgia's original and founding charter. Georgia is also associated with Wesleyan Methodism.
Oglethorpe's ban on slavery lasted exactly as long as his governorship. When he left the colony the neighbours moved in from the Carolinas and brought their practices and laws with them. This included slavery. The Stewart Cavaliers, the Carolingians of Charles I, son of James the VI and I, had always been amongst the keenest supporters of slavery - starting with making slaves of Scots to keep the coal pits and salt pans humming. One of the few ways that Scots could make money that could be taxed.....digression.
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For me the current Awokening follows those previous Awakenings. The common thread is less religious than it is cultural. The common thread is the Revival Meeting and the sense of fellowship and the desire or need to feel part of something greater and to feel that something worthy is done. Frances Hutcheson explained all in the 1720s- happiness is to be found giving pleasure to others.
Religiously the crowd moved from Catholicism, to Anglicanism, to Presbyterianism, to Methodism, to Arminianism, to Deism, to Spiritualism to outright Atheism and Agnosticism. Religiously the tendency was to more toleration and allowing everyone to find their own way to their own supreme being if they saw the need.
Culturally the need for belonging, the need to feel worthy, morphed in the purely political and the cause.
....
The corollary to the Awakenings of course must be that in between the Awakenings society must be asleep. The passions of the Awakenings pass. They can't be sustained. On the other hand every one of the Awakenings has left indelible traces on society. Call it Enlightenment of call it Progress.
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i especially like her stance on abandoning Japan to China.Are you having your own Awakening? (I'll get back to that).
This article comes closest to defining the situation for me, as I see it, so far.
Gabbard Is a Dream Come True for Foreign Policy Realists
Interventionists haven’t forgiven her for her opposition to Syrian intervention.
We are moving back to the days of Realpolitik, Kissinger and "He may be a bastard but he is our bastard" (variously attributed). The underlying sentiment is that order is better than chaos and that it is easier to redirect an ordered society towards a moderated position than it is to create a moderate society out of anarchy.
.....
WRT The Great Awokening
White liberals are embracing progressive racial politics and transforming America
The Great Awokening, explained.
The Great Awokening was presaged by the Great Awakening, and the Second Awakening, and the Third Awakening and the Fourth Awakening. The Awakenings.
The First Great Awakening - 1730s and associated with the rise of the Methodists
The Second Awakening - 1790s and associated with the Presbyterians, Methodists and Baptists
The Third Awakening - 1850s and again associated with Methodists but also with Pentecostals, Nazarenes, Jehovah's Witnesses and Christian Science
The Fourth Awakening - 1960s and associated with Billy Graham and Jesus Freaks.
All of these movements were religious movements tied to the Revival Meeting - large outdoor meetings with lots of song that were literally big tent meetings. Everyone was welcome. There were no litmus tests for ideology. Everyone was welcome to take communion or get baptised.
All of them were also social movements that crossed race, class and gender lines. Women, the rich, the working class, blacks and whites all celebrated together. And a common element was the Brotherhood of Man.
The Fourth Awakening was all about the Civil Rights movement
The Third Awakening was all about John Brown's Anti-Slavery Crusade and the US Civil War
The Second Awakening was all about the Abolitionist movement, and Somersett and Knight, about Wedgewood's "Brother's Keeper" Medallion and Burns's "A Man's a Man for a' That", and about John Graves Simcoe's declaration outlawing slavery in his new province of Upper Canada.
The First Great Awakening was typified by John Oglethorpe's experimental society in the Colony of Georgia, specifically established to give the under-privileged of Britain a fresh start in an Enlightened society. Slavery was expressly outlawed in Georgia's original and founding charter. Georgia is also associated with Wesleyan Methodism.
Oglethorpe's ban on slavery lasted exactly as long as his governorship. When he left the colony the neighbours moved in from the Carolinas and brought their practices and laws with them. This included slavery. The Stewart Cavaliers, the Carolingians of Charles I, son of James the VI and I, had always been amongst the keenest supporters of slavery - starting with making slaves of Scots to keep the coal pits and salt pans humming. One of the few ways that Scots could make money that could be taxed.....digression.
....
For me the current Awokening follows those previous Awakenings. The common thread is less religious than it is cultural. The common thread is the Revival Meeting and the sense of fellowship and the desire or need to feel part of something greater and to feel that something worthy is done. Frances Hutcheson explained all in the 1720s- happiness is to be found giving pleasure to others.
Religiously the crowd moved from Catholicism, to Anglicanism, to Presbyterianism, to Methodism, to Arminianism, to Deism, to Spiritualism to outright Atheism and Agnosticism. Religiously the tendency was to more toleration and allowing everyone to find their own way to their own supreme being if they saw the need.
Culturally the need for belonging, the need to feel worthy, morphed in the purely political and the cause.
....
The corollary to the Awakenings of course must be that in between the Awakenings society must be asleep. The passions of the Awakenings pass. They can't be sustained. On the other hand every one of the Awakenings has left indelible traces on society. Call it Enlightenment of call it Progress.
Retired AF Guy
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I'm waiting to see how long the bromance between Trump and JD lasts. You got old man Trump (who may be suffering from dementia) and a young ambitious Vance. Not a good combination.
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Lasts? As in present tense?
Retired AF Guy
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Sorry, "last." Does that sound better?Lasts? As in present tense?
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I think the writing was on the proverbial wall even before the campaign ended.
I’m now on a three-way bet - whose relationship to each other ends first: Trump/Vance or Trump/Musk
Vegas bookies must be having a time right now.
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Refuses to release his medical records. So, it's just a guessing game.
My money is on natural causes.
Going by Celebrity Death Pool, as of 4 Nov., he is right after Frankie Valli of the Four Seasons, and just before Mrs. C. of Happy Days.
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Oh look - my complete lack of surprise.
Well they likely remember what happened last time they did this…
Oh look - my complete lack of surprise.
Trump Tariff Aid To Farmers Cost More Than U.S. Nuclear Forces
The $28 billion for farmers raises questions about using taxpayer money to shield policymakers from the consequences of tariff increases.
www.forbes.com
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China won't let us go unless the price is excellent. Also Prime Minister Xi Jinping, oops, I mean Chairman Trudeau may not want us discussing the arrangement openly on army.ca
