U.S. Annexing Canada (split fm Liberal Minority thread)

[The Bread Guy]

If you think we have a crushing deficit now, just wait until the next government has to roll out CERB 2025/26 to deal with the economic impact of these tariffs. Because it worked so well the last time.

While we wait for more on the meeting between the Premiers & PMJT, just spotted this on your point (highlights mine) - way to jinx it by typing it out loud, BTW

Bailout plan in response to Trump tariffs on the agenda for premiers’ meeting with Trudeau

The premiers are meeting with PM in Ottawa Wednesday to hash out what the country will do to counter Trump’s promise to levy tariffs

www.theglobeandmail.com

Also archived here if link doesn't work. From the article ....
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[Eaglelord17]

We don't have a Federal government, certainly not one that the Premiers trust. Strangely, in 1867, the Premiers signed on to this Confederation thing on the grounds that they were hiring a Federal government to manage these exact negotiations - inter-provincial disputes, international negotiations and national defence/security.

A hundred a some years later we have a Federal government focused on handing out baby bonuses, threatening provincial interests and clueless about how to negotiate with other countries.

Just because we have a incompetent government doesn’t mean the provinces get to step outside their lane.

This has been happening more and more recently, someone needs to strongly indicate what responsibilities both sides have and to follow them. It is the beauty of our system, clearly defined roles that unfortunately we choose to ignore for political purposes.

 

[Brad Sallows]

no Premier should be going to another country and trying to negotiate.

Sure they should. The federal governing party has decided its first order of business is to take a time out and work on minimizing the likely damage to its electoral fortunes in the next election. Trudeau could have flat-out resigned so that a PM could be chosen in the House at any time in the preceding months, but he didn't. Any provinces bearing unfair shares of whatever measures result should drop out of whatever was agreed; everyone should understand up front that this is the way it is, and declare it openly to Canadians.

Everyone has had a couple of months to lay down some plans (not aspirational talking points). I've concluded pretty much all the political leaders and senior staff just kept pushing it off in the hopes it wouldn't really happen. (It still hasn't really happened.) So where are we?

"We have to stick together."

Translation: the majority among us who are planning to protect our interests by selling out the minority among us want to browbeat those poor bastards into agreeing in advance to abide by whatever shitty provisions we cook up. Sticking together is predicated on everyone being treated fairly. We've been hearing this line for months, and it's past time to reveal details of what is to be "stuck to".

"I'm going to fight for Canada."

Translation: I'm going to use this opportunity to boost my political profile by putting on the Captain Canada suit and talking tough. For the Liberals who might otherwise launch no-hope leadership bids (as always happens during a leadership race), this is more attractive than a quixotic run at being not even the leader of the Opposition; they just have to keep not doing whatever it is they haven't been doing for the past few months while they should have been preparing.

 

[Kirkhill]

Varcoe: 'Just plain dumb' — Experts warn Canada against using energy as weapon in tariff dispute

Canada would be playing a risky game if it imposes export taxes or restricts energy to the U.S. as part of a trade dispute, experts say.

calgaryherald.com

 

[OldSolduer]

Just because we have a incompetent government doesn’t mean the provinces get to step outside their lane.

This has been happening more and more recently, someone needs to strongly indicate what responsibilities both sides have and to follow them. It is the beauty of our system, clearly defined roles that unfortunately we choose to ignore for political purposes.

Beggin yer pardon but just where is the PM in all this? No doubt "reflecting" on how we Canadians fucked him over. Which is what he did to us..

 

[Brad Sallows]

Just because we have a incompetent government doesn’t mean the provinces get to step outside their lane.

"We have to endure whatever dysfunction the two federal governing parties have created and sustained in their attempts to maintain political power" is an absurd proposal.

Now some are talking about COVID-scale financial supports. People f*cking with the present and future economy so clumsily deserve no respect for their authority whatsoever.

 

[Remius]

Beggin yer pardon but just where is the PM in all this? No doubt "reflecting" on how we Canadians fucked him over. Which is what he did to us..

He was quite litterally in a meeting with the Premiers and appearing in a joint press conference this afternoon.

 

[Kirkhill]

PS

I noted the PM referenced that the Autopact, which the PM acknowledges benefits Ontario, is targeted by Trump.

As I have noted in the past the Autopact was bought with the DEW Line and BOMARC missiles.
The Canada US Trade Agreement was bought with the North Warning Line

Transactions.

 

[McG]

She represented her people as a good Premier should.

She is putting her separatist aspirations above “her people” and she is pandering to a PPC base.

 

[suffolkowner]

cutting off oil is stupid it provides no benefit to Canada just let the tariff work do its own destructive work the same with Quebec hydro. Unless of course Trumps bluffing and he doesnt tariff those things

 

[Halifax Tar]

She is putting her separatist aspirations above “her people” and she is pandering to a PPC base.

If you say so.

 

[Kirkhill]

@Remius

Butthurt wexiters?

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Cheeribye.

 

[McG]

If the priority were protecting the province’s interests and not leveraging a new wedge for separatism, she would not have dialed it in from Panama.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-premiers-trudeau-meeting-trump-tariffs-1.7431085

 

[Kirkhill]

If the priority were protecting the province’s interests and not leveraging a new wedge for separatism, she would not have dialed it in from Panama.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-premiers-trudeau-meeting-trump-tariffs-1.7431085

Panama hunh? Interesting choice of vacation spot currently. All things considered.

 

[Kirkhill]

Plan B?

Braid: Smith has plan to stop feds from looting Alberta to pay for tariff crisis

Premier Danielle Smith may create agency to buy sell oil, in order to avoid Liberal export tax. Offshoot of MAGA Donald Trump tariff threat.

calgaryherald.com

 

[Halifax Tar]

If the priority were protecting the province’s interests and not leveraging a new wedge for separatism, she would not have dialed it in from Panama.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-premiers-trudeau-meeting-trump-tariffs-1.7431085

Smith posted on social media saying she could not go along with the Canadian plan to take on Trump because federal government officials "continue to publicly and privately float the idea of cutting off energy supply to the U.S. and imposing export tariffs on Alberta energy and other products to the United States."

"Until these threats cease, Alberta will not be able to fully support the federal government's plan in dealing with the threatened tariffs," she said.

Seems like a pretty straightforward request.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Panama hunh? Interesting choice of vacation spot currently. All things considered.

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That really is a sus place to go for a vacay right now. Ill give it that.

Plan B?

Braid: Smith has plan to stop feds from looting Alberta to pay for tariff crisis

Premier Danielle Smith may create agency to buy sell oil, in order to avoid Liberal export tax. Offshoot of MAGA Donald Trump tariff threat.

calgaryherald.com

Albertans have a reason to be mindful of the Feds.

 

[McG]

Smith posted on social media saying she could not go along with the Canadian plan to take on Trump because federal government officials "continue to publicly and privately float the idea of cutting off energy supply to the U.S. and imposing export tariffs on Alberta energy and other products to the United States."

"Until these threats cease, Alberta will not be able to fully support the federal government's plan in dealing with the threatened tariffs," she said.

Seems like a pretty straightforward request.

If I were a premiere with closet aspirations of becoming president or governor of my province, dialling-in the meeting and posting bogeyman stories to excite the partisan base seems like the lowest effort thing to do. Just skip right past acknowledging the threats of tarifs & annexation by the Trump to declare the real bad guy is Ottawa. Then maybe further excite the separatists & Canadian MAGA by ensuring my media release includes showing greater prominence of the US flag over Canadian.

 

[Kirkhill]

This is the first time Washington has threatened to shut down the Alberta economy.

It isn't Ottawa's first time.