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US Presidential Election 2024 - Trump vs Harris - Vote Hard with a Vengence

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Unlike yourself, I dont profess to know the inner workings of the campaign. Absolute pure speculation on your part. You'll need better proof than your amateur opinion.
I didn’t suggest that you would have the answers to the RNC decisions. None of us are in the RNC leadership or organizing committee.

But I am speaking as someone with some knowledge on preparing people to brief others, which this is not exactly the same but not really that far off either.


In other news:

 
Everyone's so worried about the racist jokes by one guy that they're taking a pass on some kind of rational response to the characterization of the rally as some kind of Nazi event.
I think it was Clinton that started that. Instead of a single statement, like most people, she offers up whole paragraphs with pseudo proof. It's been the central issue in all her recent criticism. Besides being an election denier, she is probably the best democrat to act as the Joseph Goebbels for her party.
 
So there actually was a problem after all? Too bad for all the technical experts and their dog piles.😂

Social media continues to claim the full Rogan/Trump video is censored in searches on the YouTube platform. I checked and it still would not come up for me either.
 
Everyone's so worried about the racist jokes by one guy that they're taking a pass on some kind of rational response to the characterization of the rally as some kind of Nazi event.
Well honestly one could dub it in German and change Americans to Germans and it would fit right in.
 
Well honestly one could dub it in German and change Americans to Germans and it would fit right in.
How? Is Trump planning on invading Mexico and Canada? Is there a cultural or ethnic group he's expected to round up and execute? Is he going to essentially neuter Congress and the courts?

I glanced at a TV with CNN while at the gym today. The chyron said something about Trump making the most extreme closing ever for a campaign. Unfortunately, that belongs to other team for trying to paint Trump and some of his supporters as Nazis. There's no comparison.

If you want pseudo-Nazism, go find a video of Biden's speech in front of Independence Hall.
 
Social media continues to claim the full Rogan/Trump video is censored in searches on the YouTube platform. I checked and it still would not come up for me either.
I don’t think I’ve used the YouTube search function in years. I just go to Google or the search engine of choice, and search videos from there.
 
How? Is Trump planning on invading Mexico and Canada? Is there a cultural or ethnic group he's expected to round up and execute? Is he going to essentially neuter Congress and the courts?
Well, he did say he’d be a dictator for one day…

I glanced at a TV with CNN while at the gym today. The chyron said something about Trump making the most extreme closing ever for a campaign. Unfortunately, that belongs to other team for trying to paint Trump and some of his supporters as Nazis. There's no comparison.

If you want pseudo-Nazism, go find a video of Biden's speech in front of Independence Hall.
I find it interesting that the GOP is simultaneously trying to court the Black and Latino vote, but also allowing the comments from the rally the other night to be made.

Holy “left hand not talking to the right”…
 

Howard-Elley didn’t pay much attention when Texas Gov. Greg Abbott helped fuel that narrative by announcing that the state had removed thousands of supposed noncitizens from its rolls, claiming some had a history of voting.

Then the U.S. citizen learned she was among them.

The retired Transportation Security Administration agent was confused by how the county could come to that conclusion. And she seethed at the idea that anyone would question the citizenship of a former federal employee with the “whitest name you could have.”

The 52-year-old disputes the county’s claim that she responded to the jury duty summons by saying she was not a citizen. Instead, Howard-Elley said, she called and asked to be exempted from jury duty because of guardianship duties for three of her grandchildren.

The Montgomery County district clerk’s office, which organizes jury duty, did not respond to repeated questions and denied a public records request for Howard-Elley’s response to the jury summons, asserting it was exempt from disclosure.

Regardless of how she was flagged as a noncitizen, Howard-Elley wanted to ensure she could vote. She ordered several copies of her certified Louisiana birth certificate and confirmed receipt with an elections office employee. She thought the matter was resolved.

But Howard-Elley’s registration was not reinstated, making her the 10th U.S. citizen identified by ProPublica, The Texas Tribune and Votebeat who was removed from the rolls as a potential noncitizen. The news organizations tracked them down as part of an investigationthat found Abbott’s claims about the state removing more than 6,500 noncitizens were likely inflated and, in some cases, wrong.

“Whitest name” quip aside, as if illegal immigrants must have “ethnic” names, this is an example of how updating voter rolls can have unintended consequences if there are disputes. It doesn’t make clear in the article whether the county was correct or not putting her as a non-citizen, or if the jury exemption was granted or not.
 
How? Is Trump planning on invading Mexico and Canada? Is there a cultural or ethnic group he's expected to round up and execute? Is he going to essentially neuter Congress and the courts?

I glanced at a TV with CNN while at the gym today. The chyron said something about Trump making the most extreme closing ever for a campaign. Unfortunately, that belongs to other team for trying to paint Trump and some of his supporters as Nazis. There's no comparison.

If you want pseudo-Nazism, go find a video of Biden's speech in front of Independence Hall.
Balls!!!!
 
How? Is Trump planning on invading Mexico and Canada? Is there a cultural or ethnic group he's expected to round up and execute? Is he going to essentially neuter Congress and the courts?

I glanced at a TV with CNN while at the gym today. The chyron said something about Trump making the most extreme closing ever for a campaign. Unfortunately, that belongs to other team for trying to paint Trump and some of his supporters as Nazis. There's no comparison.

If you want pseudo-Nazism, go find a video of Biden's speech in front of Independence Hall.
I will concede that comparing Trump to Hitler and to MAGA as Nazis is not an accurate comparison. Calling the rally at MSG a "Nazi rally" is also, inaccurate. Clearly, the Democrats are inflaming the situation for political expediency, and as someone who wishes for everyone to call a spade a spade, I disagree with this tactic. It's like calling every civilian death anywhere "genocide". It's cheapens the word.

However, what you CAN call Trump, MAGA, and the MSG rally in particular, is fascist.

Key aspects of fascism:
  • Cult of Personality: Fascist movements often center around a charismatic leader who is portrayed as a savior. At the rally, Trump frequently referred to himself in grandiose terms, emphasizing his unique ability to lead and restore America. This self-aggrandizing rhetoric created a sense of dependency among attendees, reflecting a classic fascist reliance on a singular, dominant figure.
  • Populist Rhetoric Against Elites: Fascism typically employs a populist narrative that pits "the people" against a perceived corrupt elite. Throughout the rally, Trump and other speakers condemned political elites and media figures, framing them as enemies of the common citizen. This "us versus them" mentality is a hallmark of fascist discourse, designed to unify supporters against a common adversary.
  • Nationalism and Xenophobia: Fascist movements emphasize an extreme form of nationalism, often accompanied by xenophobia. At the rally, there were overt calls to prioritize American interests over those of immigrants and foreign nations, including derogatory comments aimed at immigrants. This rhetoric fosters an exclusionary nationalism that aligns with fascist ideologies.
  • Violence and Intimidation: Fascism often employs or endorses violence as a means of achieving political ends. During the rally, there were veiled threats of violence against political opponents, with Trump suggesting that those who oppose his agenda should face consequences. Such language can incite aggression and reflects the fascist tendency to normalize violence in the political sphere.
  • Rejection of Democratic Norms: Fascist movements frequently undermine democratic institutions and norms. At the event, speakers expressed disdain for electoral processes, hinting at the illegitimacy of outcomes that do not favor Trump. This rhetoric not only questions the integrity of democracy but also encourages a mindset where the rejection of democratic principles is justified if they conflict with the movement's goals.

It was fascist rally. Trump is a fascist. MAGA is fascist.
 
I will concede that comparing Trump to Hitler and to MAGA as Nazis is not an accurate comparison. Calling the rally at MSG a "Nazi rally" is also, inaccurate. Clearly, the Democrats are inflaming the situation for political expediency, and as someone who wishes for everyone to call a spade a spade, I disagree with this tactic. It's like calling every civilian death anywhere "genocide". It's cheapens the word.

However, what you CAN call Trump, MAGA, and the MSG rally in particular, is fascist.

Key aspects of fascism:
  • Cult of Personality: Fascist movements often center around a charismatic leader who is portrayed as a savior. At the rally, Trump frequently referred to himself in grandiose terms, emphasizing his unique ability to lead and restore America. This self-aggrandizing rhetoric created a sense of dependency among attendees, reflecting a classic fascist reliance on a singular, dominant figure.
  • Populist Rhetoric Against Elites: Fascism typically employs a populist narrative that pits "the people" against a perceived corrupt elite. Throughout the rally, Trump and other speakers condemned political elites and media figures, framing them as enemies of the common citizen. This "us versus them" mentality is a hallmark of fascist discourse, designed to unify supporters against a common adversary.
  • Nationalism and Xenophobia: Fascist movements emphasize an extreme form of nationalism, often accompanied by xenophobia. At the rally, there were overt calls to prioritize American interests over those of immigrants and foreign nations, including derogatory comments aimed at immigrants. This rhetoric fosters an exclusionary nationalism that aligns with fascist ideologies.
  • Violence and Intimidation: Fascism often employs or endorses violence as a means of achieving political ends. During the rally, there were veiled threats of violence against political opponents, with Trump suggesting that those who oppose his agenda should face consequences. Such language can incite aggression and reflects the fascist tendency to normalize violence in the political sphere.
  • Rejection of Democratic Norms: Fascist movements frequently undermine democratic institutions and norms. At the event, speakers expressed disdain for electoral processes, hinting at the illegitimacy of outcomes that do not favor Trump. This rhetoric not only questions the integrity of democracy but also encourages a mindset where the rejection of democratic principles is justified if they conflict with the movement's goals.

It was fascist rally. Trump is a fascist. MAGA is fascist.

We certainly live in different worlds.
 
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