Verification of Former Service (VFS) [Merged]

[RTaylor]

I was told that Basic is good for 10 years, yet I have to do it over again and it's only been 9 since I did it.

I think that the reg force will want you to do Basic over again because, to be honest, reservist units don't do the full course no matter what MOC you're coming from, unless you actually did do a reg force basic somehow. When my unit did it we didn't cover alot of material. We did what was necessary to the forces, and concentrated on what was specific to our trade - infantry. We LEARNED that during QL3 that summer when we had a slew of reg force teaching us what we did and didn't learn. Same thing happened to a friend who was reservist artillery.

Add that to the changes that occurr during any period over 2-3 years and I can almost sense you'll be doing basic, but first ask the CFRC.

 

[RetiredRoyal]

took 18 months to get my offer, i declined. I'm swearing back into the PRes today instead.

 

[Sigger]

I left last Feb and I put in my application a month ago. Same trade same unit. I was told I should "get the call shortly". I hope it is indeed shortly.

Mind you I have been very lucky with the whole enrollment process. My first time enrolling took 3 months - from time of applying to starting BMQ

 

[RTaylor]

..And I'm still waiting. No reason why they shouldn't have had my docs ready and waiting besides someone being a slack ass.

Sigh  :rage:

 

[GUNS]

If you have been out for an extended period of time, all your military information is moved to Archives Canada.
That's what I was told when I decided to join my local Reserve unit.
It was eight months before I was offered a position. I originally wanted Engineer(many friends) but was offered RCEME(veh tech) I.m a mechanic by trade.
When CFRC called me to come in to their office, I was offered a position with the Regs, signing bonus and a higher rank upon entering.
If I had known then what I know now, I'd be in like flint. When I had to turn down the offer, I had to wait another eight months before I got a call from the Reserve unit.
Unfortunately, I got a promotion a work which changed my work schedule and rendered my application to the Reserves useless.
I know it is difficult when holding down a job and joining the military.

All I can say, "Good things comes to those that wait" :warstory:

 

[2 Cdo]

Out for almost 5 years, and when I got back in in 93 it only took about 6-7 weeks from initial visit to to recruiting centre to landing in Winnipeg at -30*C!

 

[Sigger]

OK, OK..

Called my Recruiter. PLAR is in. I bypass BMQ, QL3. The frigged up thing is, I told the PO that my med docs are at my unit(same city as me), and so he decided to put it of untill now. Last week my med docs went to archive... WTF.. so now I must wait for those to come back to finish off..
So with any luck I will be back in rank within 10-20 years!

 

[Sigger]

Any ideas if it is SOP to have to redo the criminal/credit check after 1 year being out?? My recruiter is sick and no one knows...

 

[George Wallace]

Any ideas if it is SOP to have to redo the criminal/credit check after 1 year being out?? My recruiter is sick and no one knows...

You don't figure a former member of the CF could plan and perform a Criminal act in less than twelve months?

 

[Sigger]

No, I dont, and I did not...

However you never know...

 

[CFR FCS]

Sigger,
Current policy is that once file is closed for any reason, enrolment being one, a new CNRC is required. The turn around on CNRC is usually 3-5 working days so I don't see an issue. Also a few returning applicants have found themselves with credit issues after a short career.

CFR FCS

 

[GunnerNo387]

As of right now I am serving a 20 year contract.  However I wish to leave the Army after 7 years of reg force service, and take a trade in the Air Force (Reg force).  I know all about the OT systems, tried 1 of them and it failed due to Arty being under manned and capped red for OT's.  So I'm thinking about the release and then re enlist way about it. I've seen this work first hand, as other fellow gunners have left and come back wearing different cap badges.

From what I understand there is a 6 month release time and a 6 month wait before you can re-apply, and then he additional wait untill a recruiter calls you back with joining instructions.  If anyone can confirm this or clear up any errors I might have about the process, it would be much appreciated.

 

[GunnerNo387]

Hmm, I don't know why my post ended up in "Whalley's" thread, but what ever.

No the recruiting system shouldn't be used as a OT facilitartor, this slows down the process for new members joining. If you don't like you trade spend your time and ot later, you can OT our of Red Flagg trades it just takes longer then a normal OT

The CF needs to offer us combat arms people an education option.  It's nearly impossible to take time off work and go back to college or uni.  Maybe then the retention rate would be higher.  I got nothing against the combat arms, in fact I would recomend joining up as a grunt, tanker, gunner etc., for your first 3-5 years but after a certain amount of time you really start to question what your going to do after 20 or 25 years of service.  Most of us are around 20 when we join, so at 40 or 45 years of age retirement isn't an option.  The civi world isn't exactly screaming for guys for can call in arty fire or drive a tank.

 

[George Wallace]

Make up your mind.  Are you asking questions about getting out and then reenlisting, or are you going to change your mind and talk about "education programs"?  Both are subjects covered in several topics, with many good points covered to most, if not all, the questions you are asking.  The CF does have programs for members to get education courses.  All you have to do is visit the PSO office.

If you want to ask questions about getting out and reenrolling then keep them here.

If you want to ask questions about education programs for CF members; do a SEARCH and discuss them in one of those topics.




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[lost4words]

Hey, I left for basic last march but half way through my training I had a family emergency and had to VR.  Thankfully, everything is resolved now and I have begun to look at re-enrolling.  My question is how this process differs from applying orignially.  I was told by the ladies who processed my release that if I reapplied within a year, that my file is still considered "open" and because of that it should take less time.  Does that mean that I dont have to retake the CFAT or medical again?  Or is it just faster because they dont have to add me to their computers?  Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks,
AC

 

[kincanucks]

I was told by the ladies who processed my release that if I reapplied within a year, that my file is still considered "open" and because of that it should take less time.
Never heard that one before.  Actually once your are enrolled, your file is considered closed. If you reapply at the same CFRC/D, apply for the same trade or one that you already meet the CFAT for and there are openings for that trade, and it doesn't take them too long to find your medical file it shouldn't take too long.  Talk to your CFRC/D and good luck.

 

[shlindz]

Hello,
I hope this topic may be useful to others as well as myself.
I'm looking for information from those of you who have re-enrolled. I started my BMQ in June and VR'd in July. I was very idealistic upon my return to the civilian world. Unfortunately my vision didn't last long. I feel as if I don't belong outside the military. I have this craving to return to the mega and try again. My reasons for VR'ing in the first place were my family. My husband and I were a week apart on our BMQ courses. Some people might think that's cool. We thought it would be too. Unfortunately, its horrible. I was doing very good until my husband arrived at the mega. After he showed up I became distracted and inconvenienced my platoon to say the least. I would see my husband in the mess and around base, but was forbidden to speak with him. It became increasingly difficult to concentrate on my priorities. So I VR'd and so did he.My husband VR'd because he didn't think the Regular force was for him. Now he wants to join the reserves in out city. I know I want back in the mega. I may choose a different career now, but I deffinately need to go back. Unfortunatly I keep getting this weird feeling. What if I don't end up loving it as much as I think I miss it? What if my 2nd platoon isn't as awesome as my first? (They just graduated 2 days ago. I'm so proud and a lil envious). These questions and others like them are swimming through my head. It seems now to be an even bigger decision than the first time. I guess what I'm trying to get at is: What experiences has anybody had (good or bad) on re-enrolling? What to look out for. What to consider when applying. Etc... Thanks in advance to all the helpful souls out there. I'm sorry to have taken so long to get to the point.
-Eckert

 

[Celticgirl]

Hi...I don't have any personal experience with this, but I have a friend who just re-enrolled under very similar circumstances. She VR'd previously due to family issues and regretted it for a long time after. She finally took the leap and re-enrolled. I heard from her this week from St. Jean and she is very happy with her decision to go back.

That isn't to say you would be, too. Listen to your own inner voice. No one can tell you what you already know.

Here is a method of decision-making I used to use with my students:
For one week, pick one decision (i.e. re-enrolling) and "wear it like a hat". That is to say, act like you have already made the decision and are planning the future around that decision. Then, the following week, "wear a different hat" (not re-enrolling). Do the same thing - act like this is your future plan. Looking back at those two weeks afterwards, which "hat" felt more right to you? You should have a pretty clear answer.

 

[shlindz]

Thank you Celtic Girl. Your advice is so much more hands on then just making a list of pros and cons on a piece of paper. I'm excited to try on a few "hats". My one further question would be. How do I focus on my hat of the week and not look like a flake in the process. Do I tell those around me that I'v made a decision and then tell them something new next week? Is it important to have them believe each week that this is the decision I have made in order to gauge their reactions? Or should I tell my friends and family about my decision making process? Thanks again,
-Eckert

 

[Celticgirl]

Thank you Celtic Girl. Your advice is so much more hands on then just making a list of pros and cons on a piece of paper. I'm excited to try on a few "hats". My one further question would be. How do I focus on my hat of the week and not look like a flake in the process. Do I tell those around me that I'v made a decision and then tell them something new next week? Is it important to have them believe each week that this is the decision I have made in order to gauge their reactions? Or should I tell my friends and family about my decision making process? Thanks again,
-Eckert

I would say either keep mum about it or tell that about the exercise and let them play along. The point of this exercise is not to gauge the reactions of others, but to gauge your own.