Not just nasty…shoddy.
Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread
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Rainbow1910
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I'm not some Irving shill but hot damn, I don't think I've seen such a spiteful and poorly reasoned article in sometime.
From what I can see, the young writer, described as a poet, may still be a student and apparently has not gone to a journalism school. She seems to be expressing a viewpoint without having done much investigating. I blame the publication for accepting her work more than I do her for having submitted it.
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RangerRay
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If you're in a good mood and feel like that needs to be changed.
Have a read:
The Irving empire just landed an $8B payday—for warships no one asked for ⋆ The Breach
The deal was quietly announced on Trudeau’s last weekend in officebreachmedia.ca
Qu’est-ce que fuck was that?
At those prices….”River of Dreams”. I’m a Billy Joel fan.
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HMCS Downeaaster Alexa?
lenaitch
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Sadly, that's what a lot of what passes for journalism these. She has a viewpoint and therefor it is of equal value to any other, regardless of merit.
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I had flashbacks to defence coverage in the 80’s. The defence news always had opinion from “the other side” from the “peace movement”…I mean Soviet useful idiot organizations. It was verbatim what was spouted in that article, but somewhat smarter. They were coached by the KGB after all.
lenaitch
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No need to invoke a foreign entity. It's probably a credit course at many Canadian universities.
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To be fair, which that reporter doesn't really deserve, even the CBC reports it seems a bit of a shady deal...
Despite repeated requests for clarification from CBC News, neither federal department explained why the cost estimates were not being released.
Experts say they must exist somewhere in the navy or the federal government, writ large.
Part of the reluctance may relate to the fact that the final design for the warships is not completed, and not expected to be finished — and approved — until 2028. The federal government is essentially designing and building at the same time, using the British Type 26 hull design as the basis and completing the design as combat systems are added.
But experts say there's more at play in the secrecy than simple design mechanics.
The first attempt by the former Conservative government to acquire the Lockheed Martin-built stealth fighter floundered over political fights, as well as watchdog and public outrage over the enormous cost of the advanced warplane and the sense the figures were being deliberately lowballed.
Why is the naval destroyer program wrapped in secrecy? The F-35 saga offers insights
Experts say politics is getting in the way of informing taxpayers
Despite repeated requests for clarification from CBC News, neither federal department explained why the cost estimates were not being released.
Experts say they must exist somewhere in the navy or the federal government, writ large.
Part of the reluctance may relate to the fact that the final design for the warships is not completed, and not expected to be finished — and approved — until 2028. The federal government is essentially designing and building at the same time, using the British Type 26 hull design as the basis and completing the design as combat systems are added.
But experts say there's more at play in the secrecy than simple design mechanics.
Institutional paranoia
As strange as it may sound, there are many political ghosts and an unhealthy dollop of institutional paranoia left over from the long-buried F-35 saga still lurking within the new destroyer program.The first attempt by the former Conservative government to acquire the Lockheed Martin-built stealth fighter floundered over political fights, as well as watchdog and public outrage over the enormous cost of the advanced warplane and the sense the figures were being deliberately lowballed.
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Is the stone frigate testing station for the sensor setup, up and running yet?
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Not but construction is well underway.
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Still clearing the ground.
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Kind of worrisome, as that does not give them much time for testing prior to having to start locking down the superstructure module designs
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Hartlen point has nothing to do with testing superstructure module designs.
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Well you better tell the government, because they sure believe it
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The building will have a standard superstructure for a Spy 7 array. As the article suggests each ship will have modules tested and calibrated at the facility before installation into the ship, cuts down on installation, testing and calibration among other things the facility will achieve. Nothing to do with locking down designs as you suggest unless you mean something else.
