Aerospace Control Officers-AEC [merged]

[Grando]

Well, with any luck on my medical I'll be BMOQ'ing-it-up near the end of August!

 

[Celticgirl]

First I am somewhat uncomfortable discussing actual graduation or failure rates(percentages).  Knowing what the percentage is before arriving could put unnecessary pressure on students.

True enough. Had I known going into the CFAT that I needed a high score (higher than that for ANAV or pilot), I'd have been nervous. As it was, I didn't spend too much time thinking about it and did well. So I guess just working your hardest and doing your personal best is really the best advice of all.

I do recall reading that the pass mark was being elevated from 80% to 85%, however. Is there any truth to this bit of hearsay?

 

[Celticgirl]

Well, with any luck on my medical I'll be BMOQ'ing-it-up near the end of August!

Good luck to you, Grando! I hope to be joining the trade at some point after you, perhaps January or May of next year.

 

[Kruggle]

Just an update on my application.

I went to the recruiting centre on Monday to check on my medical file. The lady who has always been helping me with my file told me that the message that is attached to my file is very confusing and that she could not understand it. This other guy who works there told me that it's usually because there is some medical problem on my file and that I got denied. He told me that the reason why they couldn't really understand the message was because the reason for denial is not written on the file for privacy reasons, especially for girls. The lady then gave me a number to call the PA so that I could check on my file at home. She repeatedly told me to "call lots" so that I could get a hold of him ASAP.

After spending 2 months to get 6 medical forms signed by doctors and specialists, I knew that my medical file wouldn't be the easiest to handle. Right after I left the recruiting centre, I was quite sad and worried, as I believed that it was the end of the military dream for me. At the same time, however, I knew that I tried my best so I got over with it fairly quickly.

Today, after several attempts, I got a hold of the PA. I was very nervous about what he was about to say. Would it be about my hearing since I was almost an H3? Maybe something wrong with my eyes as I couldn't provide the necessary details from childhood? Maybe it's about blood in urine and low blood pressure combined with being a little underweight? Maybe it's because my braces are going to be a little too problematic? My heart was pounding when he told me to wait for a few minutes.

A minute later, he came back and said that my medical file for the common enrollment standard has been cleared. He told me to wait for a call from the admin. so that I can let them know when I am available to fly to the AUMB at Toronto for another medical test.

Right after I got off the phone, I couldn't stop smiling... ;D

Then suddenly I thought to myself, "Oh.. I didn't know that AECs are required to do another medical test. I thought it was only for ANAV and pilot..."

Either way, I am happy to get through another step in the application process. 

 

[Grando]

Good work and congratulations!  I was sure that AECs didn't have to go to Toronto... do you have either ANAV or pilot as #2 or #3?

How long did it take between your CFRC sending your medical stuff to the RMO and when you found out?

 

[Kruggle]

Good work and congratulations!  I was sure that AECs didn't have to go to Toronto... do you have either ANAV or pilot as #2 or #3?

Thanks 
To answer your question, I have ANAV and pilot as second and third choices.

How long did it take between your CFRC sending your medical stuff to the RMO and when you found out?

I think around 2 weeks.

How is your application coming along?

 

[Grando]

If you didn't know already, the reason they're going to send you to Toronto is for your second and third choices.

I'm just waiting for my cardiologist to finish his report that my heart's in perfect condition, then it all gets sent to the RMO.  I took ANAV off my application when I found out I'd be waiting for the extra medical stuff.  I'm hoping to get in for the Sept. 1 BMOQ.  It seems you'll be around that timeline as well - good luck!

 

[Kruggle]

Thanks for the clarification.

Do you know if I would have to do the ANAV test as well then?

 

[Grando]

The written one?  I did mine at my CFRC/D prior to my telling them I wanted it taken off of my file.  I presume you'd do the same.

I'm almost certain you'll have to do the test - however, if you're interested in fast-tracking your application to AEC (since it seems you're completed it for AEC) you can get your CFRC to send it off, then finish your pilot/ANAV testing and send a second application in for those 2 trades.  That's what my CFRC was going to do for me had I stayed on the ANAV track.

 

[Celticgirl]

Kruggle, that is great news! I'm glad things are moving for you again. I had my appointment with the specialist yesterday and got the green light (no Raynaud's) so a letter will be sent off to my family doctor very soon. The only hurdle that remains is the pre-security clearance. You would think that since I left Taiwan 9 years and 2 months ago that they would just waive the clearance, especially given how undermanned AEC is. In any case, I am hoping for Sept. 1 like Grando even though the pre-sec could put the kibosh on that.

Good luck Grando and Kruggle! Here's to hoping we all get an offer for Sept. 1st.  :cheers:

 

[aesop081]

You would think that since I left Taiwan 9 years and 2 months ago that they would just waive the clearance, especially given how undermanned AEC is.

And after they do that someone will demand an exemption for "8 years 9 months" and after that someone will demand.........

Sorry, i know it sucks but 10 years is where the line is.

 

[Celticgirl]

And after they do that someone will demand an exemption for "8 years 9 months" and after that someone will demand.........

Sorry, i know it sucks but 10 years is where the line is.

I know, I know.  :crybaby:

 

[dwalter]

If you didn't know already, the reason they're going to send you to Toronto is for your second and third choices.

I'm just waiting for my cardiologist to finish his report that my heart's in perfect condition, then it all gets sent to the RMO.  I took ANAV off my application when I found out I'd be waiting for the extra medical stuff.  I'm hoping to get in for the Sept. 1 BMOQ.  It seems you'll be around that timeline as well - good luck!

For the aircrew medical, it is not just for her second and third choices. AECs do not have to write the aircrew selection exams, but they do have to pass the aircrew medical exams.

 

[Celticgirl]

For the aircrew medical, it is not just for her second and third choices. AECs do not have to write the aircrew selection exams, but they do have to pass the aircrew medical exams.

My "aircrew medical" (for AEC) included a very detailed eye exam with an optometrist (they reimbursed me for that, fortunately) and some bloodwork. Is that what you mean by medical exams?

 

[Kruggle]

Kruggle, that is great news! I'm glad things are moving for you again. I had my appointment with the specialist yesterday and got the green light (no Raynaud's) so a letter will be sent off to my family doctor very soon. The only hurdle that remains is the pre-security clearance. You would think that since I left Taiwan 9 years and 2 months ago that they would just waive the clearance, especially given how undermanned AEC is. In any case, I am hoping for Sept. 1 like Grando even though the pre-sec could put the kibosh on that.

Good luck Grando and Kruggle! Here's to hoping we all get an offer for Sept. 1st.  :cheers:

Thanks, Celticgirl! And congrats on your medical results from yesterday.
I am actually also waiting for my pre-security clearance. It's the next biggest step I need to get through before I can be part of the military family. I was told that it could take a few years, but at least I am still moving along one step at a time. 

My "aircrew medical" (for AEC) included a very detailed eye exam with an optometrist (they reimbursed me for that, fortunately) and some bloodwork. Is that what you mean by medical exams?

Hmmm, part of the reason why it took me 2 months to sign those forms was becaues I had to go to an optometrist for an eye exam. That took around 6 weeks to set up an appointment. I was also required to do an ECG, some blood work, and an urinalysis. I wonder what the medical exam in Toronto will be consisted of.

 

[Celticgirl]

Thanks, Celticgirl! And congrats on your medical results from yesterday.
I am actually also waiting for my pre-security clearance. It's the next biggest step I need to get through before I can be part of the military family. I was told that it could take a few years, but at least I am still moving along one step at a time. 

I found out that it is possible to "express" the pre-security clearance process so you can always inquire about that. I don't know how it works, but my fiance assures me it can be done so I'm going to ask about that at my CFRC when I get in to visit (I'm in NB for the next while). I will have to wait until next May at the very latest because that is the 10-year point from my return to Canada. Obviously, that's a worst case scenario. Best case being the pre-sec comes through in the next few weeks. I don't recall why you needed one, though. Were you born in China?

Hmmm, part of the reason why it took me 2 months to sign those forms was becaues I had to go to an optometrist for an eye exam. That took around 6 weeks to set up an appointment. I was also required to do an ECG, some blood work, and an urinalysis. I wonder what the medical exam in Toronto will be consisted of.

ECG...right, forgot about that one. I think I waited 2-3 weeks for the eye appointment. In the grand scheme of things, it's nothing.

 

[dwalter]

Yup, that's what I meant by aircrew medical. All the extra goodies that you don't get done for the normal enrollment medical. It's basically the same tests as getting a Category 1 aviation medical certificate from Transport Canada.

 

[aesop081]

For AEC you get a "aicrew medical" but only get an A4 as air factor in your medical category......Pilots and Navs need A1 and AES Op / FE needs A2

 

[Kruggle]

Sorry, but I am still a little confused.

I have already obtained all the necessary test results for my AEC medical before my file was sent to Ottawa. Do they want to get further testing done for AEC in Toronto? Or am I going there to see if I am medically suitable for pilot and air nav?

 

[aesop081]

Sorry, but I am still a little confused.

I have already obtained all the necessary test results for my AEC medical before my file was sent to Ottawa. Do they want to get further testing done for AEC in Toronto? Or am I going there to see if I am medically suitable for pilot and air nav?

DRDC medical testing in Toronto is only for Pilot and Nav.

However, for all personel requiring an air factor other that A5, your aircrew medical file gets sent to DRDC in Toronto for review and final aproval of your air factor.