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C7 rifles within cadets

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I have been on our SAT(FATS) on teh army cadet night, and have a bunch of them come down and watch us. I dont know if any of them use it or not, but mmmmm interesting thought.
 
in BC, there is an PRCI prohibiting cadets and CIC officers firing on SAT ranges.

 
Seems dumb, all the proper Geneva Convention stuff, and a set ROE's are hard programmed into it. When you fire, you are using compressed gas to operate the weapon, the ban seems stupid, then again. If it is violent, the military cant endorse it. Cadets/CIC, it just makes no sense not letting them do it.
 
19. Cadets and CIC officers may not fire at any targets depicting either a human figure or a military target (e.g.
CF Figure 11 and Figure 12 targets, bunkers and other structures, and vehicles). Cadets and CIC officers may not
fire on a Small Arms Simulator under any circumstances.

http://www.cadets.net/pac/support/pdf/policy_weapons_ranges.pdf

The closest I've been to a SAT is sitting next to the door in the basement of the armoury. What do they do? DO they show people? I think that would be the reason for the ban.
 
Spr.Earl said:
The new Gun Laws prohibit Cadets from using a Assault Rifle's.
Under the new Laws only the Military and designated members of a Police Force can use Assault Rifles.

End of Subject.

Sorry any one can own an assault rifle, I have two but they are on the restricted list use at the range only
 
He forgot to put the word "automatic" before assault rifles. You knew damn well what he was saying, just as I did. If you want to get into the semantics of it, I wouldn't call anything an assault rifle unless it can be fired on automatic.
 
If you owned it before 1972 you can still own a full auto but only military ranges are up to standard for their use that I know of.
But on a sad note I can only put 5 rds in my AR-15 but a guy with a belt fed MG42 that fires 1300 rounds per minute has no such restriction.You figure that one out.
but the government classes it an assault rifle even if we don't.
 
Are you sure about the existence of a grandfather clause like that? I knew a guy about 10 years ago that had a working Vickers liquid cooled MG, he had two options when the new laws came out in the late 90's, sell it to a museum or have the barrel welded since he wasn't allowed to keep it as it was.
 
my72jeep said:
If you owned it before 1972 you can still own a full auto but only military ranges are up to standard for their use that I know of.
But on a sad note I can only put 5 rds in my AR-15 but a guy with a belt fed MG42 that fires 1300 rounds per minute has no such restriction.You figure that one out.
but the government classes it an assault rifle even if we don't.

Fully automatic weapons if registered prior to 01 Jan 1978 (the same time FACs come into law) are owned in Canada legally, and they (owners of such) can trade/buy/sell to anyone in their same catagory as themselves. I know many owners of such in Manitoba, Ontario,   and Saskatchewan.

The law is current and unchanged. However some ant-gun police, would have told you different, and have the guns destroyed. Relying on your ignorance to get this done. I have seen this too also by police who were unaware of the rights and laws gun owners, and gun legislation. when in doubt yourself, ring someone who knows.

As for the bloke with the Vickers, was it converted to CA status? As if it was, and if he missed the deadline to register it back in the early 90's, the gun cannot be registered, and would have to be de-milled permanantly to an inactive condition. I used to have many CA's which all were registered, and although I sold them prior to coming here, the person I sold tehm to still has them in his collection, and they are all happily registered.

A friend of mine in Canada has a CA Vickers (in 7.92 x57mm), really nice and complete converted to this calibre for Turkey in belgium. Here is a pic of it.

Cheers,

Wes
 
Inch said:
Are you sure about the existence of a grandfather clause like that? I knew a guy about 10 years ago that had a working Vickers liquid cooled MG, he had two options when the new laws came out in the late 90's, sell it to a museum or have the barrel welded since he wasn't allowed to keep it as it was.
Was he the owner prior to 1972?
that was the date.Ok sorry I was wrong thank you wes 1978 was the date.
 
Under stood. A bud of mine was stopped from registering a FN by the OPP they said he could not own it. his answer to them was if thats so, how come I have 5 now.most cops don't know the laws they are to over worked.
 
Very true My72, I seen the same thing in Saskatchewan, but in other areas where the RCMP were in charge (rural detachments). Seems the PS's of Regina and Saskatoon were pretty much well on the ball.

This whole national thing now, I feel is the most incompetant disasater ever achieved (I found this out 1st hand in 2000 and 2004 when I was back visiting).

The Sask Govt says it will not bother prosecuting anyone in breech of registration of current long arms, but the RCMP say otherwise.

I always used to say, we should never let eastern Canadian politics dictate western Canadian lifestyles. What a waste of over 1,000,000,000 dollars!

Cheers,

Wes
 
Can I ask what that Picture is Of? I really don't see what It is.. I just see a lot of Guns..:S
 
Wesley H. Allen said:
A friend of mine in Canada has a CA Vickers (in 7.92 x57mm), really nice and complete converted to this calibre for Turkey in belgium. Here is a pic of it.
I think thats pretty self-explanatory
 
It is a Vickers machine gun. CA I think means converted auto. So it would be a converted auto Vickers machine gun.
 
first of all, if you go to a shooting camp, they let you shoot as much with the c7 as the feel necessary, and yes, i do think that we should be able to have c7 instead of Daisy rifles. we are being trained and molded into the perfect recruit, so why not lets us get a better taste of whats to come?

Cpl.clarida
2799 Queens York Rangers
 
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