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Canada security council seat

There is may be an important upside to this. Perhaps Canadians will start to care a bit about foreign (and, by extension, defence) policy. Perhaps the commentariat, especially the journalists, will start thinking about foreign and defence policy instead of just acting - as about 99.9% of journalists do - a stenographers for retired, bitter, partisan, second rate senior officials like Paul Heinbecker.*

It would be nice - but probably it's just a pipe dream - to have Stephen Harper lead that debate and, supported by the strength in his front bench, engage Canadians - not just Michael Ignatieff, Bob Rae and Paul Dewar but opinion leaders and students and Taliban Jack Layton's 'ordinary Canadians,' too.

Given Prime Minister Harper's propensity to put tactics well ahead of strategy I suspect that we will not hear a coherent explanation of the government's grand strategy from the government - in part, because there is none, I fear. We will have to rely upon others to present the government's case for it - because it will be roundly and well attacked by Ignatieff, Rae, Dewar, Heinbecker, Lewis et al.

IF Harper is as smart a political tactician as e.g. Lawrence Martin thinks he is then he would make Peter Kent - a skilled communicator (the essential skill that made both Adrienne Clarkson and Michaëlle Jean so trusted and popular) - his point man on a foreign policy debate to deflate the criticism, at least, but, also to make the government's case, to neuter foreign policy as an election issue.


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* Let me be clear: Paul Heinbecker is a charming, intelligent, politically savvy fellow who 'knows' Ottawa and UN New York in the way only real 'insiders' can. He offers a lot of useful insights into policy and politics. He is, however, just plain wrong in his (and Trudeau's) strategic 'vision.' 
 
E.R. Campbell said:
There is may be an important upside to this. Perhaps Canadians will start to care a bit about foreign (and, by extension, defence) policy. Perhaps the commentariat, especially the journalists, will start thinking about foreign and defence policy instead of just acting - as about 99.9% of journalists do - a stenographers for retired, bitter, partisan, second rate senior officials like Paul Heinbecker.*

Or not:

Canada’s loss at the UN
What’s your reaction?

Thucydides

Harper's foreign policy lands at the UN
What a disaster. UN members denied Canada a coveted seat at the UN Security Council Tuesday.

In a last ditch effort to avoid a complete defeat, Stephen Harper withdrew Canada's bid before what was expected to be a complete drumming by member states as support swung to Portugal over Canada.

Canadians pride themselves on our global role, but Canada’s dismal performance on climate change, foreign aid, peacekeeping, asbestos, reproductive rights, and the Middle East has taken a heavy toll.

Stephen Harper may regret snubbing the UN for so long. Now we know if you ignore the world long enough — it will eventually notice.

Canadians are now faced with a choice. We can continue down the road toward international irrelevance, or we can change course, rebuild and start taking our international responsibilities seriously again.

What is your reaction? Tell everyone - leave your comment on Ceasefire.ca.


In peace,

Steven Staples, Ceasefire.ca
 
Part 1 of 2

OK, but some folks, like Andrew Steel,* are trying, as in this opinion piece, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright Act from the Globe and Mail:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/andrew-steele/canadas-grand-strategy/article1755298/
Canada’s grand strategy

ANDREW STEELE

Globe and Mail Update
Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010

Why do nations behave as they do? This question is the pivot of foreign policy.

International affairs has two major analytical viewpoints. The first isIdealism, which typically involves a value-based analysis of the world. There are good guys and bad guys and we support the good guys. The work of Woodrow Wilson to establish a moral approach to foreign policy following the First World War is an example of the type, and so is the neo-conservative approach of George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan’s “evil empire” approach to the Soviets.

The second is Realism, a viewpoint that specifically subtracts moral viewpoints from foreign policy. Instead, Realism elevates national interest and security above ideology, moral concern or social engineering. This school goes back to Sun Tzu and Machiavelli, and includes the balance of power of Bismarck, the realpolitik of Henry Kissinger, and – arguably – the current policies of Barack Obama.
In his book, The Next 100 Years, realist thinker George Friedman lays out what he calls the “Grand Strategy” of the United States. This is the overriding series of goals that must be achieved to maintain American power, domestic peace and high standards of living. It is a strong example of Realist thinking that coldly calculates the factors necessary in national security, rather than what would be nice.

The list can summarized as:

1. U.S. Army controls the continental United States.
2. Naval control of the approaches to the continental United States.
3. No rivals in the Western Hemisphere.
4. Control of ocean trade routes in the rest of the world.
5. Preventing the rise of a rival hegemonic power, particularly in Eurasia.

The first step is an absolute necessity to U.S. security: control of the heartland itself. Each step builds off of the first other in sequence. So military control of the continental United States allows control of the naval approaches to prevent a foreign invasion. Control of the approaches to the United States allows the containing and destabilizing of hemispheric rivals. And so on.

Friedman describes the U.S. grand stategy a bit on his website:
“The United States operates with a grand strategy derived from the British strategy in Europe — maintaining the balance of power. For the United Kingdom, maintaining the balance of power in Europe protected any one power from emerging that could unite Europe and build a fleet to invade the United Kingdom or block its access to its empire. British strategy was to help create coalitions to block emerging hegemons such as Spain, France or Germany. Using overt and covert means, the United Kingdom aimed to ensure that no hegemonic power could emerge.

The Americans inherited that grand strategy from the British but elevated it to a global rather than regional level. Having blocked the Soviet Union from hegemony over Europe and Asia, the United States proceeded with a strategy whose goal, like that of the United Kingdom, was to nip potential regional hegemons in the bud. The U.S. war with Iraq in 1990-91 and the war with Serbia/Yugoslavia in 1999 were examples of this strategy. It involved coalition warfare, shifting America’s weight from side to side and using minimal force to disrupt the plans of regional aspirants to gain power. This U.S. strategy also was cloaked in the ideology of global liberalism and human rights.

The key to this strategy was its global nature. The emergence of a hegemonic contender that could challenge the United States globally, as the Soviet Union had done, was the worst-case scenario. Therefore, the containment of emerging powers wherever they might emerge was the centerpiece of American balance of power strategy.”


Friedman states that all countries have a grand strategy, verbalized or unacknowledged, achieved or impossible. Many actors in the state, even at a high level, can ignore or remain unaware of this analytical framework, but it is there nonetheless, guiding decisions that may otherwise be perplexing to understand.

As the same time, achievement of even the first step of a grand strategy is not a given. Belarus has a multi-step grand strategy that likely begins with maintaining integrity of their borders and independence from rival powers. But the political and economic dominance of that country by Russia compromises even the first step.

There are debatable points in Friedman’s model. For instance, neither Serbia nor Iraq appeared to be capable of constructing a navy capable of rivaling the United States in the medium-term, but China or India do. Why would the U.S. expend time and resources on minor regional players at the expense of major potential rivals? (Friedman does lay out answers to these points in his book, which I recommend for anyone interested in geo-strategy, or the impact of physical geographic factors on international relations.)

Friedman’s model raises the question of Canada’s grand strategy. What is it? And how successful are we are implementing that strategy? I would argue it goes something like this:

1. Independence from the Americans
2. Political unity of Canada
3. De facto as well as de jure control of our territory
4. Strong international institutions to counterbalance U.S. hegemony
5. Open borders with the United States

Allow me to explain.

1. Independence from the Americans

The history of Canada is a story of resisting joining the Americans, either culturally or politically. From the War of 1812 to the decision not to join in the Iraq war, our relationship with the Americans has been central to our national strategy.

The 19th century saw the introduction of the National Policy, a closed border tariff regime designed to foster East-West trade and ensure our independence from the Americans. Only after the nation had solidified over a hundred years and moved through all of the other elements of our strategy, did we finally feel ready to move to the open borders policy that we currently use.

While we want to profit and learn from our relationship with the U.S., there are relatively few Canadians who actually want to join the Union. In fact, maintenance of cultural and political independence from the United States is a topic where there is broad agreement in the result people want, and a thousand opinions about the methods.

Everything from Canadian content rules in radio broadcast to the ownership structure of critical industries is about maintaining a separate cultural identity. The impact has been to create a hybrid between the global export U.S. culture of People Magazine and Glee, with a localized and satirical Canadian sensibility that plays off of and enhances our own identity.
The methods by which we maintain that separate identity – and even what that identity is – remain in debate, but the necessity of remaining independent culturally and politically is rarely questioned.

2. Political unity of Canada

The second challenge for our country is unity.

Immediately after Confederation, Canada faced a separatist threat fromNova Scotia. The Red River Rebellion and North-West Rebellion were attempts to break free from central control. More recently, we have faced the existential question of Quebec dissolving Confederation in 1980 and 1995, as well as less acute but menacing threats to unity from western separatism, particularly in the 1980s.

While some like to shrug off the impact of Quebec independence on Canada, it is painfully obvious that it would shrink the country, isolate our Atlantic provinces, and leave Canada with diminished prospects and scope at best. From currency devaluation to opportunity costs, the financial impact would be severe. As East-West trade became more difficult, our dependence on North-South trade (and the United States) would soar. Quite possibly, succession would lead to further fragmentation, economic instability, reduced standards of living, or even war.

Maintaining our sovereign nation with dominion over the Northern half of North America is the overriding agenda for Canada. More than any other potential threat, the exit of a major element of the nation would compromise the country and its citizens.

3. Defacto as well as de jure control of our territory

On paper, Canada is the second largest country on earth. But our actual control of this territory is undermined by the extremely sparse population north of Edmonton. The second major challenge for Canada is maintaining sovereignty over this vast territory. Control of all of our territory less critical than keeping all ten provinces in the fold, but it is key.

The Arctic is the most visible stage for this challenge, but control of our oceans is also important. The passage of the Polar Sea, an American ship, through our territorial waters in 1985 was a major threat to continued Canadian ownership of the land and resources there. The Hans Island dispute earlier this decade was about control of our territory. There are major border disputes between Canada and the United States in the Beaufort Sea.

Further south, the Turbot War was a political battle for control of off-shore fisheries, particularly critical at a time of chronic over-demand on the resource.

Maintaining our borders protects our access to key resources – oil, gas, fish – as well as well as reinforcing our control over the environmental stewardship of these resources. While some of the territories in question are not core to the Canadian polity, the legal and political arguments made to maintain them are the same ones that allow Canadian stewardship of the Gulf of St. Lawrence, the Georgia Strait and the Strait of Juan de Fuca near Vancouver, and the Bay of Fundy.

4. Strong international institutions to counterbalance U.S. hegemony

Living next to an elephant, as Canadians do, we natural move to support strong international institutions that can act to constrain the United States. Canada is often described as a “middle power.” This has been defined as meaning “All middle powers display foreign policy behaviour that stabilizes and legitimizes the global order, typically through multilateral and co-operative initiatives.”

Basically, there are “great powers” in the world, like the United States, China and – arguably – countries like Russia or India. There are regional powers, who begin to dominate a sector of the globe, like Brazil or South Africa. There are minor states who tend to get pushed around by the other two categories. Then there are “middle powers.” These tend to be stable, democratic, stable, egalitarian, and distinct from the great and small powers.

Canada is a textbook “middle power” and as such, follows the textbook on being a middle power. We attempt to strengthen international institutions where “middle powers” can use our soft power influence and reason to preserve international order through gradual reform, rather than radical global change.

Pearsonian diplomacy, Peacekeeping, the United Nations and all the other Canadian touchstones in foreign policy are all about strengthening international order through institutions.

5. Open borders with the United States

Free trade with the Americans is a policy Canada long rejected and only recently endorsed. The reason for that acceptance was the successful implementation of the other four steps of our strategy. With independence from the Americans secure, the nation relatively unified, our territory secure (at least at the core) and strong international institutions like the WTO established, free trade is a far more reasonable policy than it would have been in the 19th century.

Open borders ensure access to the market where the vast majority of our exports go. Our domestic markets are simply too small and too geographically dispirit to allow for a high tariff policy unless we are willing to compromise our standard of living. The alternative to U.S. markets is far more expensive shipping of goods to Europe or Asia, or the marketing of services to nations with different time zones and languages.

As free trade becomes more ingrained, even minor shifts in border policy can have large impacts. The recent move to require American citizens to provide a passport when reentering the country from Canada had a severe impact on services in border communities on the Canadian side.

A border closure would wreck havoc on the Canadian economy. Autarky is not a good idea in a country of our size and density, and attempts to reduce our opportunities to trade with the U.S. will translate directly and quickly to our standards of living.

However, free trade is a policy we can afford only so long as the other elements in our strategy are stable. If the alternative is the loss of independence or loss of territory, we could see free trade sharply decline.

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These elements of the Canadian grand strategy can be seen in government actions throughout our history.

Canada was formed to fend off a growing threat of invasion from the United States. The decision was made to join together to ensure our political independence, the first step of our strategy.

John A. Macdonald’s first term saw the use of force to end the Red River Rebellion – addressing the second element of policy unity – and the purchase of Rupert’s Land – the expansion and consolidation of our territory.

Patriotic membership in the British Empire served to strengthen our first four strategic goals, until after the First World War, when the declining Empire and rising Canadian Nationalism demanded a new course.

Canada’s leadership in the post-war international community was all about the fourth element: creating the United Nations, NATO, WTO and G20 to produce counterbalances to growing American power.

What is so interesting about our history is our achievement of the fifth stage in our strategy, and the ability to now engage the Americans as equals in trade without fear of cultural or political colonization.

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Certainly, this is only a quick sketch of what Canada’s grand strategy may be, and I invite thoughts on alternatives.


 
Part 2 of 2

Canada had a considered, coherent grand strategy that was enunciated in 1947 by the Minister of External Affairs and later Prime Minister Louis St Laurent in the famous Grey Lecture.St Laurent also had five principles which are expressed below in his own, first person, words:

1. Our external policies shall not destroy our unity. No policy can be regarded as wise which divides the people whose effort and resources must put it into effect. This consideration applies not only to the two main cultural groups in our country. It applies equally to sectionalism of any kind. We dare not fashion a policy which is based on the particular interests of any economic group, of any class or of any section in this country. We must be on guard especially against the claims of extravagant regionalism no matter where they have their origin

2. Political liberty. This is an inheritance from both our French and English backgrounds, and through these parent states it has come to us from the whole rich culture of western Europe. It is a patrimony which we ourselves have enlarged by working out on our own soil the transition from colony to free community. These are days in which the vocabulary of political thought has been so debased that there are many familiar coins that one hesitates to lay on the counter. I make no apology, however, for speaking to a Canadian audience of political liberty because I know that this phrase has content for us. I know, also, that we are all conscious of the danger to our own political institutions when freedom is attacked in other parts of the world. In the complex series of events which twice in a generation has led us into war, we have been profoundly influenced in our decisions by the peril which threatened the democracies of western Europe. From our joint political inheritance, as well as from our common experience, we have come as a people to distrust and dislike governments which rule by force and which suppress free comment on their activities. We know that stability is lacking where consent is absent. We believe that the greatest safeguard against the aggressive policies of any government is the freely expressed judgment of its own people.

3. Respect for the rule of law has become an integral part of our external as of our domestic policy. The supremacy of law in our own political system is so familiar that we are in constant danger of taking it for granted. We know, however, that historically the development of this principle is a necessary antecedent to self-government. The first great victory on the road to freedom was the establishment in early modern times of the principle that both governments and peoples were subject to the impartial administration of the courts. Only then could the further step be taken by which the people gave their consent to the laws by which they were governed.

4. Human values. I know that we live in an age when it is fashionable to speak in terms only of hard realism in the conduct of international affairs. I realize also that at best the practice of any policy is a poor approximation of ideals upon which it may be based. I am sure, however, that in our national life we are continually influenced by the conceptions of good and evil which emerged from Hebrew and Greek civilization and which have been transformed and transmitted through the Christian traditions of the Western World. These are values which lay emphasis on the importance of the individual, on the place of moral principles in the conduct of human relations, on standards of judgment which transcend mere material well-being.

5. Aaccept[ing] international responsibilities. I know that there are many in this country who feel that in the past we have played too small a part in the development of international political organizations. The growth in this country of a sense of political responsibility on an international scale has perhaps been less rapid than some of us would like. It has nevertheless been a perceptible growth: and again and again on the major questions of participation in international organization, both in peace and war, we have taken our decision to be present. If there is one conclusion that our common experience has led us to accept, it is that security for this country lies in the development of a firm structure of international organization.

St Laurent’s ideas and ideals are a bit different in style and substance from either Steele or Friedman because they lead to an  idealistic strategy that is firmly grounded in political domestic political realism.

I will offer my own thoughts later.


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* Andrew Steele is a government relations and political consultant in Toronto. He was previously senior advisor to Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty. He also served as Chief of Staff to the Ontario ministers of Environment, Government Services and Management Board. Described by the National Post as a "hard-nosed political veteran," Andrew has played a role in more than 25 closely-fought campaigns in Ontario, British Columbia, the United States, and on the municipal and federal scene in Canada. In the private sector, Andrew designed and analyzed public opinion surveys and interpreted focus groups at one of Canada's top market research companies.
Source: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/andrew-steele/
 
Taking the "O" out of WEOG:

The UN Security Council, Canada–and the curse of the EU
http://unambig.com/the-un-security-council-canada-and-the-curse-of-the-eu/

Mark
Ottawa
 
CDN Aviator said:
You are angry because Canada did not win a temporary, non-veto seat on a mostly ineffective council ?

To each their own i guess.

That's what I was thinking.
Could someone please explain to me what the big deal is?

Isn't the only people who give a shit about what the UN says basially the "Illegal and unjust war! You just want oil!" crowd?  (Until someone points out that the UN sanctioned whatever then they are just a puppet of the establishment..)

What perks are we missing out on not getting a seat?
 
Grimaldus said:
That's what I was thinking.
Could someone please explain to me what the big deal is?

Isn't the only people who give a crap about what the UN says basially the "Illegal and unjust war! You just want oil!" crowd?  (Until someone points out that the UN sanctioned whatever then they are just a puppet of the establishment..)

What perks are we missing out on not getting a seat?
None, IMO. The whole org has been hijacked by nations such as Libya, North Korea etc.
 
Steele's 5 points are entirely too focused on the US.  Limiting to 5 for simplicity and appeal, I would ditch at least #4 (at the end of the day, most "international institutions" are window dressing when rubber hits roads) and replace it with something acknowledging the importance of expanding our trade and relations with Europe and Asia.
 
OK if you want a seat on the security council ! Give me about 1.5 million in used bills plus a budget for roughly 150 $200.00 hookers,If you want a permanent seat it'll cost extra...and no I'm not joking I probably could get us a seat that way. Rather sad when you think about it.
 
Once people move beyond the belief the nations will always act methodically and with pattern and purpose and that our 10 years of lobbying should have swayed the vote, then one realizes that any nation (through a small cadre of influential movers and shakers) can be just as influenced by their peer nations like a kid getting "into the group" on the schoolyard.  It just happens on a larger scale than most people are used to.  :nod:
 
GK .Dundas said:
OK if you want a seat on the security council ! Give me about 1.5 million in used bills plus a budget for roughly 150 $200.00 hookers,If you want a permanent seat it'll cost extra...and no I'm not joking I probably could get us a seat that way. Rather sad when you think about it.

Unfortunately, that's more or less the way things happen in the UN. The only thing it would cost more than a $1.5 million. The International Olympic Committee is even worst.
 
Brad Sallows said:
Steele's 5 points are entirely too focused on the US.  Limiting to 5 for simplicity and appeal, I would ditch at least #4 (at the end of the day, most "international institutions" are window dressing when rubber hits roads) and replace it with something acknowledging the importance of expanding our trade and relations with Europe and Asia.


Agreed. The USA - because, if nothing else, of wealth and proximity - needs to be at the top of our priority list but it cannot, must not be our exclusive focus. I agree with two of Steele's points about the USA:

1. We need to 'erase the border' for trade and commerce and people; but, simultaneously

2. We need to enhance our political independence from the USA.

The latter means that we need to be more active in, especially, Asia.
 
Just a couple of comments regarding the Andrew Steele article.

1. Independence from the Americans

Everything from Canadian content rules in radio broadcast to the ownership structure of critical industries is about maintaining a separate cultural identity. The impact has been to create a hybrid between the global export U.S. culture of People Magazine and Glee, with a localized and satirical Canadian sensibility that plays off of and enhances our own identity.

What Steele doesn't mention trying to maintain a separate “identity” cost Canadians – literally. Whether its airlines, cell phone providers or internet providers, Canadians are held hostage by a bunch of monopolies that rip us off all in the name of protecting our identity.

The methods by which we maintain that separate identity – and even what that identity is – remain in debate, but the necessity of remaining independent culturally and politically is rarely questioned.

Are Canadians all that different from the U.S.?  When I was growing-up in Saskatchewan I could identify more with someone from Montana or Arizona than I could with a fellow Canadian from Ontario, Quebec or the Maritimes. The reason being is that the history of Western Canada is similar to what happened in the Western U.S. Not on the same scale, but, still similar.  Even today, many of my friends have been to the States, but have never been east of the Man/Ont border.

And when in Europe most locals on hearing me speak thought I was American. Heck, even most Americans thought I was from Kansas because I had a “mid-Western' Accent. Interestingly, the only ones who recognized my Canadian accent were Brits.

2.    Political unity of Canada

The second challenge for our country is unity.

While some like to shrug off the impact of Quebec independence on Canada, it is painfully obvious that it would shrink the country, isolate our Atlantic provinces, and leave Canada with diminished prospects and scope at best. From currency devaluation to opportunity costs, the financial impact would be severe. As East-West trade became more difficult, our dependence on North-South trade (and the United States) would soar. Quite possibly, succession would lead to further fragmentation, economic instability, reduced standards of living, or even war.

So true. Anybody, whether from Quebec or the ROC, who thinks that Quebec separating would have not enormous repercussions especially politically or economically is daydreaming. 

4. Strong international institutions to counterbalance U.S. hegemony

Basically, there are “great powers” in the world, like the United States, China and – arguably – countries like Russia or India.

I disagree to what Steele regards as a “great power.” To me a great power is a country/alliance that is able to project its power (militarily, politically and economically) around the world or a good portion of it. By that definition the United States is a “great power.” China, on the other hand, I would define it as a regional power. Its influence is growing, especially in Africa, but it will be years before its considered to a be a great power. However, China has a wide variety of problems including internal instability arising from increasing, poverty, corruption, pollution, demographics (more men then women) and external tensions with neighbours; all of which will have a impact on China's future. 

You could make the argument that Russia is a great power, but it also has numerous internal/external problems. No way would I consider India to be a great power. Its a regional power like Brazil and South Africa.

Interestingly, Steele makes no mention of the EU.

Canada is a textbook “middle power” and as such, follows the textbook on being a middle power. We attempt to strengthen international institutions where “middle powers” can use our soft power influence and reason to preserve international order through gradual reform, rather than radical global change.

When I hear someone speaking of “soft power influence” I think of Teddy Roosevelt and his saying “Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick.” Soft power only works when you have power (military and political) behind you to back you up.
 
For people who really want to "do something", Canada is a member of dozens of organizations which actually have th ability to take action and have some clout in the world. Let's focus on getting more bang for our bucks in the:

G-8
G-20
Commonwealth
OAS
WTO
NATO, and
NORAD (among others).

If we want to get new friends, setting up an "Angosphere" association, or a council of democratic nations (both of which can be cut and pasted out of many of our existing memberships) wold provide a series of forums of nations with common interests and institutions (an Anglosphere group would share the principles of British Common Law to a large extent, for example) without the risk of being derailed by hostile parties or bit players like Libya or the DPRK.

An Anglosphere association is a pet idea of mine (as many of you know), and would give Canada a global reach, encompass many of the largest and most powerful nations on Earth (the US and India would be charter members) and have the political, ecoomic and military muscle to actually be a potent force in the world. A powerful and active Anglosphere would also serve to counterbalance other groupings (the EU, the "Sinosphere", Russia, the Arab block etc.) as well as allowing us to gradually shed alliances and groupings which seem to have reached their past due date.
 
Thucydides, don't forget IMF and World Bank...arguably even more influential/effective than the UNSC by a wide margin.
 
Good2Golf said:
Thucydides, don't forget IMF and World Bank...arguably even more influential/effective than the UNSC by a wide margin.
Hell, the crazy guy who plays guitar on the corner of Ontario & Clarence is arguably more influential/effective than the UNSC.

The difference is I don't despise him  ;)
 
“A diplomatic game worth losing” (Mr Coyne on top form)
http://unambig.com/a-diplomatic-game-worth-losing/

Mark
Ottawa
 
MarkOttawa said:
“A diplomatic game worth losing” (Mr Coyne on top form)
http://unambig.com/a-diplomatic-game-worth-losing/

Mark
Ottawa
Seriously? A Milnet post with no content linking to a blog post with no content other than an extract from and a link to a Maclean's article? Why not just post the Maclean's link here? Oh, that's right - because you're shamelessly promoting your blog.

Nothing wrong with that of course, but please do try to add some value when you post here.
 
Actually, Mark has added far more value than most here....promoting his blog....yep...if that's what it takes to get the message out......good solid info, in any format is appreciated.
 
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