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That should be a real fear of every Canadian…or at least those who don’t put personal gain at the hands of foreign state subversion ahead of the citizens…
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Unfortunately most Canadians will ignore the warnings - have ignored the warnings. The current GoC is certainly not helping. The PM and his staff distrust CSIS and the CAF, or maybe a few of them have a iron in that fire.....
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There were a number of young, male East Asians on my particular group touring HMCS Harry deWolf (which is not at all surprising given the ethnic mix in Toronto) and like most people were taking pictures of the many interesting parts of the ship along the tour. I did however find it curious when one of them was taking pictures of the electrical panels in the passageways. Perhaps an electrical engineering student? Simply a photo fanatic that reinforces the picture-taking stereotype of Asian tourists?
I can't imagine that any useful information could possibly be gathered from an electrical panel that had nothing more than a Siemens nameplate and a Voltage/Amperage rating on it, but given everything else you hear about Chinese information gathering efforts it does kind of make you go hmmmm.
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20 odd years ago I was at yet another food industry show where large multinationals like my employer were launching new processing equipment.
The talk of the show was the large number of Chinese with cameras crawling around the floor to get "upskirt" pictures of the new machines. Knockoffs ensued within months.
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China is upping their game
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Pentagon Chastises China for 'Irresponsible' Military Drills Surrounding Taiwan
China has conducted a series of military exercises codenamed “Joint Sword 2024B” around Taiwan, raising tensions in the region and drawing international concern. The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) exercises, which...
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Looking for any avenue of exploitation. All information is useful.
Siemens Sicam Vulnerabilities Could Facilitate Attacks on Energy Sector
Several vulnerabilities patched recently in Siemens Sicam products could be exploited in attacks aimed at the energy sector.
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AND there are ALWAYS a willing few that will accept 40 pieces of silver to betray their country.Looking for any avenue of exploitation. All information is useful.
Siemens Sicam Vulnerabilities Could Facilitate Attacks on Energy Sector
Several vulnerabilities patched recently in Siemens Sicam products could be exploited in attacks aimed at the energy sector.www.securityweek.com
Siemens Industrial Products | CISA
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The Economist takes look at China's global dilemma with a particular emphasis on the Middle East:
As Chinese officials ponder the violence in the Middle East since then, they may be less keen on escalation. Iran fired a barrage of missiles at Israel on October 1st. Israel has relentlessly attacked Iran’s proxies in Gaza and Lebanon. All of that unsettles China, which is by far the most powerful of four countries—also including Iran, North Korea and Russia—that have acquired monikers in the West such as the “axis of upheaval” and the “quartet of chaos”. [I call them the CRINKs
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] The four share a contempt for the American-led global order and a readiness to disrupt it. Their security-related dealings with one another are often shadowy. But, notwithstanding its own muscle-flexing around Taiwan (see next story), there are limits to China’s appetite for conflict.
China’s relationship with Iran illustrates its dilemma. Leaders in Beijing have a lot of sympathy with Iran’s worldview. Last year it was given full membership of the Shanghai Co-operation Organisation, a Eurasian security and economic club dominated by China and Russia. In January Iran was admitted to the brics, another group that China and Russia are trying to nurture as a bastion of West-sceptics.
China also benefits from Iran’s abundant supply of oil. The volume of this trade is hard to quantify because of the elaborate schemes that China and Iran use to evade American sanctions. But estimates put it at 10-15% of China’s crude imports. That is most of Iran’s exports of the fuel.
As the world’s biggest buyer of foreign oil, China worries about the potential impact of a wider war in the Middle East on the flow and cost of the stuff. Iran sells its oil cheap. An Israeli strike on Iranian oil facilities could force China to depend more on other, pricier suppliers such as Saudi Arabia. But Saudi shipments could be disrupted in the Strait of Hormuz or the Red Sea by missile strikes from Iran or the Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen.
This may not be disastrous for China. It is thought to have reserves that would cover three or four months of lost imports. And oil accounts for 18% of China’s energy supply, compared with 34% in America. But a big war could also threaten China’s commercial interests in the Middle East. It has poured billions of dollars into energy and infrastructure projects, especially in Gulf countries such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Israel, too, is a recipient of Chinese investment (despite China’s support for the Palestinian cause).
China sees American power waning in the Middle East, and senses an opportunity. It has forged close ties with Iran, but also with Saudi Arabia and Iran’s other rivals. China describes its big investments in the region as part of its Belt and Road Initiative (bri), a global infrastructure-building scheme aimed at boosting trade and Chinese clout. The bri’s politics-blind approach helps to cast China as a non-meddling power. It is eager to foster that image in the global south, which it views as a counterweight to America.
But as the Middle East threatens to descend into ever wider conflict, with Iran—a prominent Chinese friend—at the centre of it, China’s diplomatic impotence in the region risks being exposed. It has been trying to demonstrate otherwise. In March last year it brokered the final stages of a deal between Iran and Saudi Arabia to restore their long-severed diplomatic relations. In July the rival Palestinian factions, Fatah and Hamas, announced a vague agreement in Beijing to co-operate in forming a new government for Palestinians when the war in Gaza ends.
These moves have done nothing to stop the violence, however. Israel rejected the “Beijing Declaration”—it wants no role for Hamas in the Palestinian territories. Iran’s dependence on China as a buyer of its oil would appear to give China leverage over the Islamic Republic. But China apparently sees greater dividends from America’s embroilment in Middle Eastern conflict than from trying to keep Iran in check. An America distracted by wars in Ukraine and the Middle East, China may reckon, would have less appetite for confronting China over Taiwan or the South China Sea.
That does not mean that China is eager to fan the flames. The security ties between it and Iran are limited. A report published this month by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a think-tank in Washington, notes “rumoured” Chinese provision of satellite technology for Iran’s ballistic-missile programme. But an agreement signed in 2021 has produced little in the way of military co-operation, apart from some joint drills that Western intelligence analysts deem largely insignificant. And though the deal reportedly dangled the possibility of $400bn in Chinese investment over 25 years, China shows no eagerness to pour money into Iran.
To China, the two other members of the quartet are more vital concerns. Russia and North Korea both border China and act as buffers against encroachment by American power. But even with these countries, China does not offer carte blanche. It gives massive technological support to Russia’s defence industries, while appearing to stop short of providing weapons for use against Ukraine (despite a partnership with Russia that they both describe as having “no limits”). China has made clear its opposition to Russia’s threatened use of nuclear weapons in that conflict.
With regard to North Korea, China did not stop it from acquiring nukes, but it was clearly angered by the move. It may have also taken a dim view of the agreement, which looks a lot like a defence treaty, that North Korea and Russia signed in June. With Russia in the mix, China risks losing some of its influence over North Korea.
China sees all of its authoritarian friends as useful for discomforting America. But it also treats them with caution, showing a smaller appetite for risk than other members of the quartet. In the Middle East, it does not want to become enmeshed in a complex struggle. If things really kick off between Israel and Iran, leaders in Beijing are likely to stand back and watch, with fingers crossed that China’s interests survive the crossfire. ■
I think this is pretty much spot on.
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Does China welcome—or dread—an Iran-Israel war?
It wants American interests to suffer, but not at any price
Last month, as tensions escalated between Iran and Israel, China helped organise a Chinese film festival in the Iranian capital, Tehran. It opened with a blockbuster: “The Battle at Lake Changjin”. The drama portrays the heroism of Chinese soldiers who fought against American troops in the Korean war of 1950-53. “Strike one punch to avoid a hundred,” Mao Zedong is shown exhorting his colleagues. Nationalist bloggers in China crowed about the film’s showing. “Iran cannot sit idly by, even if the United States is behind Israel!” wrote a widely read scribe.As Chinese officials ponder the violence in the Middle East since then, they may be less keen on escalation. Iran fired a barrage of missiles at Israel on October 1st. Israel has relentlessly attacked Iran’s proxies in Gaza and Lebanon. All of that unsettles China, which is by far the most powerful of four countries—also including Iran, North Korea and Russia—that have acquired monikers in the West such as the “axis of upheaval” and the “quartet of chaos”. [I call them the CRINKs
& ] The four share a contempt for the American-led global order and a readiness to disrupt it. Their security-related dealings with one another are often shadowy. But, notwithstanding its own muscle-flexing around Taiwan (see next story), there are limits to China’s appetite for conflict.China’s relationship with Iran illustrates its dilemma. Leaders in Beijing have a lot of sympathy with Iran’s worldview. Last year it was given full membership of the Shanghai Co-operation Organisation, a Eurasian security and economic club dominated by China and Russia. In January Iran was admitted to the brics, another group that China and Russia are trying to nurture as a bastion of West-sceptics.
China also benefits from Iran’s abundant supply of oil. The volume of this trade is hard to quantify because of the elaborate schemes that China and Iran use to evade American sanctions. But estimates put it at 10-15% of China’s crude imports. That is most of Iran’s exports of the fuel.
As the world’s biggest buyer of foreign oil, China worries about the potential impact of a wider war in the Middle East on the flow and cost of the stuff. Iran sells its oil cheap. An Israeli strike on Iranian oil facilities could force China to depend more on other, pricier suppliers such as Saudi Arabia. But Saudi shipments could be disrupted in the Strait of Hormuz or the Red Sea by missile strikes from Iran or the Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen.
This may not be disastrous for China. It is thought to have reserves that would cover three or four months of lost imports. And oil accounts for 18% of China’s energy supply, compared with 34% in America. But a big war could also threaten China’s commercial interests in the Middle East. It has poured billions of dollars into energy and infrastructure projects, especially in Gulf countries such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Israel, too, is a recipient of Chinese investment (despite China’s support for the Palestinian cause).
China sees American power waning in the Middle East, and senses an opportunity. It has forged close ties with Iran, but also with Saudi Arabia and Iran’s other rivals. China describes its big investments in the region as part of its Belt and Road Initiative (bri), a global infrastructure-building scheme aimed at boosting trade and Chinese clout. The bri’s politics-blind approach helps to cast China as a non-meddling power. It is eager to foster that image in the global south, which it views as a counterweight to America.
But as the Middle East threatens to descend into ever wider conflict, with Iran—a prominent Chinese friend—at the centre of it, China’s diplomatic impotence in the region risks being exposed. It has been trying to demonstrate otherwise. In March last year it brokered the final stages of a deal between Iran and Saudi Arabia to restore their long-severed diplomatic relations. In July the rival Palestinian factions, Fatah and Hamas, announced a vague agreement in Beijing to co-operate in forming a new government for Palestinians when the war in Gaza ends.
These moves have done nothing to stop the violence, however. Israel rejected the “Beijing Declaration”—it wants no role for Hamas in the Palestinian territories. Iran’s dependence on China as a buyer of its oil would appear to give China leverage over the Islamic Republic. But China apparently sees greater dividends from America’s embroilment in Middle Eastern conflict than from trying to keep Iran in check. An America distracted by wars in Ukraine and the Middle East, China may reckon, would have less appetite for confronting China over Taiwan or the South China Sea.
That does not mean that China is eager to fan the flames. The security ties between it and Iran are limited. A report published this month by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a think-tank in Washington, notes “rumoured” Chinese provision of satellite technology for Iran’s ballistic-missile programme. But an agreement signed in 2021 has produced little in the way of military co-operation, apart from some joint drills that Western intelligence analysts deem largely insignificant. And though the deal reportedly dangled the possibility of $400bn in Chinese investment over 25 years, China shows no eagerness to pour money into Iran.
To China, the two other members of the quartet are more vital concerns. Russia and North Korea both border China and act as buffers against encroachment by American power. But even with these countries, China does not offer carte blanche. It gives massive technological support to Russia’s defence industries, while appearing to stop short of providing weapons for use against Ukraine (despite a partnership with Russia that they both describe as having “no limits”). China has made clear its opposition to Russia’s threatened use of nuclear weapons in that conflict.
With regard to North Korea, China did not stop it from acquiring nukes, but it was clearly angered by the move. It may have also taken a dim view of the agreement, which looks a lot like a defence treaty, that North Korea and Russia signed in June. With Russia in the mix, China risks losing some of its influence over North Korea.
China sees all of its authoritarian friends as useful for discomforting America. But it also treats them with caution, showing a smaller appetite for risk than other members of the quartet. In the Middle East, it does not want to become enmeshed in a complex struggle. If things really kick off between Israel and Iran, leaders in Beijing are likely to stand back and watch, with fingers crossed that China’s interests survive the crossfire. ■
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I think this is pretty much spot on.
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New leadership at a United Front Work Department group in Richmond after the election.
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Meet the new boss, same as an old boss
The day after B.C.'s election, a pro-Beijing group chose new leadership in Richmond
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Always nice to see a threat embedded into the title of an article. We can arrange such a mission for them…
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An example of what can happen when unsafe/aggressive intercepts are carried out.
EP-3E Aries II Spy Plane That Collided With Chinese Fighter Is Going On Display
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ch...urora-surveillance-1.6997852?origin=serp_auto
EP-3E Aries II Spy Plane That Collided With Chinese Fighter Is Going On Display
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ch...urora-surveillance-1.6997852?origin=serp_auto
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China may learn the hard way that the Arctic does not bend to the whims of the CCP
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Chinese Vessels Without Ice Class Violate Arctic Safety Rules, Struggling Through Ice To Deliver Sanctioned Cargo
By Malte Humpert (gCaptain) – In an attempt to deliver a power plant to a Russian Arctic LNG project before winter two Chinese heavy lift vessels are inching along through...
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Article is in French, but the editor of the Chinese Sci-fi magazine that brought “The Three Body Problem” to prominence has been charged with corruption.
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Chine: purge de l’éditeur d'un livre de science-fiction à succès adapté sur Netflix
Un éditeur chinois connu pour avoir découvert Le problème à trois corps, le roman de science-fiction primé récemment adapté en série à succès sur Netflix, fait l'objet d'une enquête pour corruption.…
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Of course he has......quelle surprise.Article is in French, but the editor of the Chinese Sci-fi magazine that brought “The Three Body Problem” to prominence has been charged with corruption.
Chine: purge de l’éditeur d'un livre de science-fiction à succès adapté sur Netflix
Un éditeur chinois connu pour avoir découvert Le problème à trois corps, le roman de science-fiction primé récemment adapté en série à succès sur Netflix, fait l'objet d'une enquête pour corruption.…
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China is heading for collapse. Xi Jinping has no exit strategy
Beijing will be helpless to resist Donald Trump’s tariff war. The likely appointments of Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz show he’s serious
www.telegraph.co.uk
Gordon Chang
12 November 2024 4:33pm GMT
The Taiwanese do the same thing. At least they have that in common with mainland China.
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The demographics change within China is also not doing them any favours.China is heading for collapse. Xi Jinping has no exit strategy
Beijing will be helpless to resist Donald Trump’s tariff war. The likely appointments of Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz show he’s serious
Gordon Chang
12 November 2024 4:33pm GMT
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Absolutely they do. But they at least turn out good quality knock-offs. They remove the burrs and supply useful manuals.
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