Deemed crazy and want to join?

[Slim]

Yes i am a peice of work playing by your rules.

If you were playing by our rules we wouldn't be having this conversation.

You were percieved to be making an attack against someone who was asking for help. It that's not the case then next time choose your words more carefully.

If this happens again you go on warning. I trust that I do not have to explain why.

Slim
STAFF

To Sarah

Please don't let this individual turn you off either the CF or our site. We have some very good people here who try their utmost to assist anyone with legitimate requests for help or info. Everyone has a bad apple or two.

I apologize to you for his behavior and promise that, if it happen again, he will be dealt with severely.

Take care and hope to hear from you soon.

Slim
STAFF

 

[Cloud Cover]

Slim, you forgot to add: "Please govern yourself accordingly."

 

[infantrygf]

  Its relay OK, I didn't see any of the replies until now, I was out all weekend with my bf who had the weekend off form BIQ. I asked him my question but he wasn't relay sure, so I thought I'd ask some more experienced people or hope fully just find someone who knows a it more about the proses.

I know there are always some monkeys out there, I find this place allot of help, as a military gf and as someone hoping to start the recruiting proses sometime in September. Still have to work on those pushups lol.

Thanks again everyone you have been allot of help.

 

[Springroll]

I personally didn't see anything wrong with his reply to her.
What he said is true as far as the military not wanting any bad apples etc....

What I don't get is why he gets jumped on for what he wrote when I have read worse coming out of other members on here and they do not get a warning but he does??

I found him to be quite articulate considering his age, and look forward to reading many more posts from him.

 

[Slim]

I personally didn't see anything wrong with his reply to her.
What he said is true as far as the military not wanting any bad apples etc....

What I don't get is why he gets jumped on for what he wrote when I have read worse coming out of other members on here and they do not get a warning but he does??

The reason he got jumped on is because he has 0 experience with the Cf and does not know what he is talking about.  Others here do and we (the mods) know who they are.

 

[Armymedic]

As for the other problems. When I was younger I was put on several different medications for ADHD.  My mother also took me to several phychiatrists, hoping that they would find the perfect drug for me.  As I know that there is nothing wrong with me apart form being disdyslexic, I screwed around with them. There for they labled me with all sorts of interesting things such as scischizophrenia and bipolar disorder. Obviously then I didn't think that doing that might come back to bite me in the but lol.

You may need a current evaluation on your own dollar stating you have no current psychological problems, and have been treatment free for at least 2 yrs for the recruiter to even look at you.
If you have been previously diagnosised with schiz and or Bipolar disorders, the CF won't touch you with a ten foot pole.

 

[strongchristian]

I didn't find tang's post that bad, I find it really amusing that somebody would get worked up enough to begin writing a PM full of profanity over that. It's pretty interesting actually how the hierarchy in the real army translates over to this site, I don't agree with it, but then its not my site.  8)

 

[Roy Harding]

I didn't find tang's post that bad, I find it really amusing that somebody would get worked up enough to begin writing a PM full of profanity over that. It's pretty interesting actually how the hierarchy in the real army translates over to this site, I don't agree with it, but then its not my site.  8)

Check his profile, read his posts (the option is at the bottom of the profile page).

tang72's got a history around here.

 

[beach_bum]

strongchristian,

Are you qualified to determine what and whom the CF is looking for?  According to your profile (which says you are a civy) I would say no.  The same goes for Tang (who is also a civy).  Why don't you let the people in recruiting establish who is qualified.  No one outside the recruiting system can say yeah or nay.  That's the way it works.

 

[infantrygf]

As for the guy who said something wrong I know he has a history of naughtiness but weather or not he is, is not what this subject is about.  I don't care what he said, and wheather or not he gets a warning or whatever is up to the people in carge of this site. 

I have not been diagnosed with anything other then ADHD, the others just gave my mother wild speculations on what was wrong with me according to what she said I acted like, she's still convinced I'm bipolar or something. But I don't have to live with her anymore  ;D.

Can get a referral form a family doctor or would I have to see a nother psychobabble?
Do they look at school records as apart of the back ground check?
Will they want to talk to my previous doctors and psychobabbles?

It doesn't relay matter, I'm sure there are tons of people wanting to sign up that have a better past then I do. I'm still gunna give it a shot this September, but if they won't even look at me because of my intresting history, I guess my mom was right I am a fuck up.  I should of figured that the army wouldn't want people that have been called psychotic by professionals.

 

[patrick666]

Don't be so hard on yourself. There is still opportunity.

Go to your doctor, have him re-evalute you and bring the paperwork with you to your recruiter. There are many who've gotten in with a worse past... tell your mom to stick it. Don't let her hold you back if this is truly what you want to do. I don't believe they'll actually speak to the doctor but you will definitely need a report documenting your current status of health..

Yes, school records are part of the application. You need your high school transcripts and post-secondary as well (if applicable)..

My advice for you..

Go to your doctor, get yourself checked out, and apply. The army is a great start to changing your life and I wish you the best of luck in the application process.

Cheers

 

[infantrygf]

Thanks, now all I have to do is find a doctor lol, that shouldn't be to hard my bf has one that he likes.

I'm good at being hard on myself, and mom isn't going to find out till I pass basic that way if I don't get in she cant say I told you so, or they'll kick you out. I'm OK for highschool transcripts, and other records, cuz thats when I decided to grow up.

I still don't think I have a hope in hell, but I'm going to get all my crap togeather and try my best anyway. I'll tell you guys how it went, just maybe I'll comeback an infanteer.

      -Sarah

 

[Roy Harding]

...
It doesn't relay matter, I'm sure there are tons of people wanting to sign up that have a better past then I do. I'm still gunna give it a shot this September, but if they won't even look at me because of my intresting history, I guess my mom was right I am a fuck up.   I should of figured that the army wouldn't want people that have been called psychotic by professionals.

You know, when I first joined up, some of my NCOs had joined as an alternative to a jail sentence.  I'm not kidding - it was "join the Army or 30 days", or something like that.  We're talking minor crimes here, of course.  Why do you suppose that was?  Back then, it would have been the '50s and '60s, people recognized that SOME young hell raisers required DISCIPLINE, not incarceration or the hand-holding we give them today.  Some of these guys were the best damned soldiers and leaders I've ever met.  They took to the disciplined lifestyle like ducks to water and thrived in it.

I realize that the situation is not directly comparable to your own - I offer it simply as an indication that the military is very good at assimilating and bringing out the best in a wide variety of people.

Take the good advice that's been offered here, get your possible medical condition clarified.  I don't know if you're "psychotic" if not, or if you simply sufferred a "psychotic episode" or two in your past - and frankly I don't care.  

Do me a favour - stop predicting that the military won't want you.  Any idea what a self-fulfilling prophecy is?

Just get down to a Recruiting Centre - LISTEN TO WHAT THEY TELL YOU, obtain and hand in any documentation they may need, and see what happens.  Don't rely on what a bunch of knobs (including me) say on some internet forum - find out for yourself.

You go, girl - let us know how you make out.

 

[Springroll]

You know, when I first joined up, some of my NCOs had joined as an alternative to a jail sentence.  

That was my dad. It was either join the navy or go to jail for 5 years...lol

 

[paracowboy]

okay, you've had plenty of hugs and encouragement, now you need a kick in the @ss. That's where I come in. 

The only way you're going to know for sure whether you have what it takes is to start on the path. Go to a recruiter. Now. Get off the computer, stop reading this, and go. If it's farther than you can travel, make a phone call. Send an e-mail. Make contact. Answer the nice recruiter's questions honestly. Ask your own of him/her. There's no need to walk in saying "Hi, my Mom thinks I'm a whacko, but I wanna join the Army." After all, you wouldn't start off a civvy job interview that way, would you?
Now, GO!


When you get back, lemme know how it went.
Luck.

 

[ArmyWife]

Sarah, I wish you the best of luck! You never know unless you try. I wish nothing but the best for you. Hold your head up high hun. We have spoken many times and you are a very sweet girl. Take care and I will be on msn tonight if you wanna chat 

 

[strongchristian]

Hi Sarah, I phoned my doctor just out of curiousity and came up with the following. Anything you say between your doctor and you is off limits for CF recruiters, unless you sign a release form allowing them to pull up records from your doctor or psychiatrist's office, etc. So if don't bring it up and haven't signed any release form then they cannot know about what happens behind those closed doors. Even if you were in counselling for two years, if you didn't sign a release form, it shouldn't be known by them.

However, your record of prescription-medecine taking is fully accessible by the CF, so the recruiters can derive form that information what they will.

 

[Donut]

strongchristian, this would be one of those cases of staying inside one's arcs of knowledge.

Sarah, this is not meant in any way to dissuade you from trying to join, but I've got to correct the misinformation you got from the above poster.

Firstly, fill out all the forms with complete and utter honesty. Not implying you wouldn't, and I won't go into the repercussions, administrative or medical, of lying on an enrollment medical, but they're not light.

One of the forms you will have to fill out is a medical questionnaire, which will ask a whole lot of questions about your medical history.  Just about every positive reply on that form will generate some investigations, either a simple question "when did you have your tonsils out? any problems?" or a deeper inquiry, "take this form to a specialist, have him or her conduct their own exams, including tests XY&Z, fill it out, and return it to the CFRC/D."

All of these outside referrals will be accompanied by a release form that will allow the physician to relase any findings to the CFRC/D medical team.  If all of these concerns aren't addressed, the candidate shouldn't/won't be cleared for CEMS (common enrollment medical standards) and won't be recruited.

It's not an easy process, but it's a necessary one.  You'll never succeed if you don't apply, so take a stab at it, while keeping other options open.  You might be pleasantly suprised.

DF

feeling a little like a broken record.

 

[ArmyWife]

I would suggest being totally honest and upfront with everything. That is the best way to go. Don't hide anything from them as it might hurt you in the long run.

 

[strongchristian]

I never said to give misinformation! Please don't infer something from nothing. I was strictly talking about freedom of information in these cases.