Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[dimsum]

I mean are you surprised?

I am not.

But yeah there is a lot of waste.

That is some British-level understatement there

 

[Good2Golf]

But yeah there is a lot of waste.

So more like a net 3.1-3.2% of GDP?

 

[Brad Sallows]

Edited to add: The Space thing blows my mind. There are the 5 separate Space components (one for each service), the US Space Force, and then US Space Command, which are all different things.

They have Police Agency Envy.

 

[RangerRay]

Congress is forcing the services to transfer the Space positions to Space Force.

I’m guessing all those positions are fighting going to Space Force because they don’t want to wear those fugly uniforms…

 

[KevinB]

I’m guessing all those positions are fighting going to Space Force because they don’t want to wear those fugly uniforms…

It's actually more related to wanting something out of Satellites that they don't think they are going to get from a larger parent --
1) The Army tends to look at the fact they have armed helicopter because the USAF doesn't want to do ground support stuff.
2) The USAF has Security Forces as the Army doesn't want to provide soldiers to look after aircraft that won't do ground support.
3) The USMC tends to distrust everyone and duplicated all efforts because everyone else ignores them.
4) The Navy well they do Navy stuff
5) SOCOM knows the other services are so fucked up, if they want something done they will do it themselves...

and there is justification for a whole lot of shit in DoD - not just the Space aspect.

 

[daftandbarmy]

It's actually more related to wanting something out of Satellites that they don't think they are going to get from a larger parent --
1) The Army tends to look at the fact they have armed helicopter because the USAF doesn't want to do ground support stuff.
2) The USAF has Security Forces as the Army doesn't want to provide soldiers to look after aircraft that won't do ground support.
3) The USMC tends to distrust everyone and duplicated all efforts because everyone else ignores them.
4) The Navy well they do Navy stuff
5) SOCOM knows the other services are so fucked up, if they want something done they will do it themselves...

and there is justification for a whole lot of shit in DoD - not just the Space aspect.

 

[FJAG]

I’m obviously not sure how it worked out before unification, but getting rid of IRMC just pushes the problem right, no?

Each L1 staffs up their needs to…somewhere and they get approved. But at some point, some organization (TB or other) will have to say “we have the $ for this, but not that”. With IRMC, which is presumably DND-internal, the rack-and-stack is at a lower level than having to get to the point of TB, just to essentially be racked-and-stacked at the Govt level.

I could be totally wrong though.

Unless I'm mistaken, in days of yore, each of the services received its own budget from the government.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Unless I'm mistaken, in days of yore, each of the services received its own budget from the government.

There was a political appointment of Secretary for the RCN, reported to MND at least until 1961. The RCN had control over its budget at that time. I assume the other service branches were the same.

 

[McG]

Brooke Claxton brought the services under a single budget before the Korea War was done.