Royal Canadian Air Farce
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josh said:bilton090 and warspite:
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Shuuurley the 'chickencanon' offends you too ..... :
Stop your flaming right now. Your comments are nothing but spam. I've got a very low tolerance for guideline offences today. I could get you for your first snide remark to George, a Mod. That's your warning. Don't try my patience.
Just my two cents worth:
Airfarce are comedians and its their job to poke fun at everybody. I can't think of anyone they have spared from their comical parody (politicians, religions, royal family so on and so forth). While their skit on the CF mission in AFG may seem to be in bad taste at first, it does bring forth the richness and strength of our infallible democratic values. I feel it would be counter to what our brave CF personnel are fighting for in the AFG war, if any dissenting voice is muzzled in the name of patriostism. Everyone has a right to express their views, and to label the dissenters as unpatriotic may seem to be muzzling their right of expressing their opinions.
Just my two cents
Airfarce are comedians and its their job to poke fun at everybody. I can't think of anyone they have spared from their comical parody (politicians, religions, royal family so on and so forth). While their skit on the CF mission in AFG may seem to be in bad taste at first, it does bring forth the richness and strength of our infallible democratic values. I feel it would be counter to what our brave CF personnel are fighting for in the AFG war, if any dissenting voice is muzzled in the name of patriostism. Everyone has a right to express their views, and to label the dissenters as unpatriotic may seem to be muzzling their right of expressing their opinions.
Just my two cents
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Well I never really minded them ( RCAF ) poking fun at us ( the military ) when it was over the usual stuff like kit, or pay or whatever. We all flame each other about it jokingly, and have generally an understanding sense of humour about our military.
BUT,
My sense of 'ha ha' goes away when they step over the line IMO about casualties and comments about what soldiers go through over there. They dont know, and will never know.
Can you imagine a comedian in WW2 putting on a skit making fun of casualties or the circumstances surrounding them? Bob Hope woulda been run outta town.
Im all outta cents, but these bottles are good for refund.
BUT,
My sense of 'ha ha' goes away when they step over the line IMO about casualties and comments about what soldiers go through over there. They dont know, and will never know.
Can you imagine a comedian in WW2 putting on a skit making fun of casualties or the circumstances surrounding them? Bob Hope woulda been run outta town.
Im all outta cents, but these bottles are good for refund.
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I never really got their humour ever.I find them very lame,like a bad joke a cathloic preist would tell(one of those generic non offending ones).
George Wallace
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armistice said:
Yes they are Comedians and they do poke fun at everyone. Most of us can handle a little jab now and then, but when they make fun of the dead and wounded......well then it is no longer humour, parody, or any other of those fine words you may call a comedians jokes. It is now very bad taste and an insult.
However, you are free to your opinion. I'd like to say that the following part of your post is a whole hockey sock full of verbal diarrhea, and in the great words of Genera Arnold Schwarzkopf: "Bovine Scatology". You have put forward a dissertation that places you in the same crowd as a bunch of long hair, Birkenstock wearing folk who really haven't given their Rights and Freedoms much real thought and have taken them far too lightly. Rights which were hard earned by those before us, who have fought and died to protect them.
You really don't know the true meaning of your following prose.
armistice said:
.....and that my two cents worth.
Now if we start adding up all these cents.......do we have enough for a Large Double Double?
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armistice,
please don't equate our taking exception to the Airfarce making fun of dead soldiers, with trying to silence a decenting democratic viewpoint. We know they have the right to say what they want, we just think it is in extremely poor taste for them to do so in this instance.
please don't equate our taking exception to the Airfarce making fun of dead soldiers, with trying to silence a decenting democratic viewpoint. We know they have the right to say what they want, we just think it is in extremely poor taste for them to do so in this instance.
COBRA-6 said:
I do not in any way imply that I approve of their using the deaths of our soldiers as a topic for their show, infact I do mention in my earlier post that it shows poor taste on their part. However, if someone were to summarize in one sentence the ideas of all the posts on this thread, it would read soemthing like, "CBC is anti-CF, the airfarce is anti-canadian..etc etc". Lets agree that I think its poor taste as well; however, I feel that 'crap like this' (for lack of coming up with a better phrase) is necessary to check the boundaries in a democracy. For instance, look what happens in the mid-east and the freedom of expression there. The media there cannot even think about critisizing their government policies, let alone their military. If we start critisizing artists (comedians) then where do we draw the line?
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George,
I think one or two comments in the negative are a small penance for the support RCAF has given our soldier on the show over the yrs. Mind you I did not see the skit you mention, so I can't comment specifically on it, but the RCAF was one of the few places in popular culture that would talk about how previous gov'ts would not give us the gear we need to do everything they wanted us to do.
ps-but to bring our cas onto a comedy show, may well be not in the best taste. Could it possibly be due to a recent change in thier writing/producing staff?
I think one or two comments in the negative are a small penance for the support RCAF has given our soldier on the show over the yrs. Mind you I did not see the skit you mention, so I can't comment specifically on it, but the RCAF was one of the few places in popular culture that would talk about how previous gov'ts would not give us the gear we need to do everything they wanted us to do.
ps-but to bring our cas onto a comedy show, may well be not in the best taste. Could it possibly be due to a recent change in thier writing/producing staff?
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COBRA-6 said:
:-S I think I missed the part where they made fun of the dead soldiers. I noticed they called the mission un-winnable and then they did make light of friendly fire at the very end. (In poor taste, but a valid point that it is happining to often, dammed fog of war.) Making fun of/pointing out a major source of casualties is fair game and if I remember comedies from other war periods it was fair game then too. It can be a way of dealing with the stress, but in this case I think they were making the point that it is to common and something should be done. I think they could have said better things in better ways, but I don't think they were making fun of dead soldiers. (If I'm wrong, tell me what I missed, I know I didn't understand fully what they were saying, the entire skit left me going *wtf* where I normally understand exactly what they mean - even when I disagree)
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I see a distinction between pointing out in a general sense how friendly fire is a major source of casualties, impugning the system as a whole, and saying something that would question the integrity, competence ... etc. of an individual soldier who has died.
I completely respect where you can take offence to it - I feel it was in bad taste. My initial reaction was one of revulsion. I think they meant well by it, trying to support us in their own way, ... it just came out the same way the NDP supports us. (which honestly has upset me deeply)
I completely respect where you can take offence to it - I feel it was in bad taste. My initial reaction was one of revulsion. I think they meant well by it, trying to support us in their own way, ... it just came out the same way the NDP supports us. (which honestly has upset me deeply)
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How about we all just agree to nominate that skit for the Chicken Cannon.........
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What ingredients should we use?
1) Half baked beans to go with their half baked attempt to be funny
2) Black shoe polish to help fix the boots of the army guys who will kick them in the rump?
3) a can of cream corn, because corny skits should be inoffensive
4) goldbond mediated powder, because this skit irritated under the collar
5) Torn up NDP party membership cards, to go with mine. ( yes, mine is torn up )
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I say we make a list on here and then all go submit it :-D
1) Half baked beans to go with their half baked attempt to be funny
2) Black shoe polish to help fix the boots of the army guys who will kick them in the rump?
3) a can of cream corn, because corny skits should be inoffensive
4) goldbond mediated powder, because this skit irritated under the collar
5) Torn up NDP party membership cards, to go with mine. ( yes, mine is torn up )
Addition:
I say we make a list on here and then all go submit it :-D
George Wallace
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Just sent them this:
Suggested Ammunition: CF IMP - Chicken Caccatori; Mother Parkers freeze dried coffee; Dust Bunnies; Peanut butter; and an Extra Large Double Double.
Suggested Ammunition: CF IMP - Chicken Caccatori; Mother Parkers freeze dried coffee; Dust Bunnies; Peanut butter; and an Extra Large Double Double.
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I understand the double double.... but why the other ingredients?
George Wallace
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The IMP and Mother Parkers are gross. Many have survived on Peanut Butter sandwiches in the Field, and none can survive long without the Tims. OH Yes! The dust Bunnies, are found everywhere during Inspection........
Perhaps some pound cake and pitless cherries would of been good too.
Perhaps some pound cake and pitless cherries would of been good too.
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I'll say it again THERE IS NOT A F**KING THING FUNNY ABOUT AFGHANISTAN ! , Did they do a skit about the shooting at school's, NO ! ( bad taste ), It's a fine line, they crossed it !.armistice said:
DWI driver kills hole family, let's make a skit ! WTF lets not go there !
How do you think the families of the KIA's or FF feel about that !
MY 2 CENTS !!!!!!!
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I just recently watched a newer edition of RCAF and THH22M and I didn't laught at all, in fact I turned the channel simply because I thought there might be something better on another channel. Unfortuneatly I was proven wrong and I was forced to come to the conclusion that television these days isn't about quality like it used to be, but now its all about the ratings. And how do we get ratings? By being controversial and out-right ignorance. Boy howdy, thank whatever little pink fuzzy god out there that RMR has credibility (maybe HE should run for political leader of a party, I know I'd vote for him. I also want Mike Myers to run for mayor of his hometown when I was younger because I thought it'd be hilarious if someone actually did).
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