Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[dapaterson]

Who the heck is Frank Baylis?

One term politician who runs a medical supply company that did well with federal contracts during the pandemic.

Frank Baylis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Maxman1]

Singh ran a defense lawyer practice, drives a Maserati and wears Rolex. I don’t understand why anyone truly thinks he’s substantially motivated by a relative pittance of a six year Parliamentary pension at age 65? He probably stands to make more money out of Parliament than in it.

You don't stay rich by willingly giving up tens of thousands a year.

Plus he was a mediocre defense attorney with only one client before switching to politics.

 

[OldSolduer]

You don't stay rich by willingly giving up tens of thousands a year.

Plus he was a mediocre defense attorney with only one client before switching to politics.

And now he is the leader of a dead from the ass both ways political party.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Fox news - gloating ...

 

[Furniture]

Singh ran a defense lawyer practice, drives a Maserati and wears Rolex. I don’t understand why anyone truly thinks he’s substantially motivated by a relative pittance of a six year Parliamentary pension at age 65? He probably stands to make more money out of Parliament than in it.

I'd assume that he's also smart enough to understand that a gold plated pension is a nice thing to have in your back pocket, even when you have other wealth.

Why do we always have to pretend that things are black and white? Singh can be a successful trust fund/inheritance baby, and also want a pension... Just as I can be a working class "loser" smart enough to understand a government pension is a way to elevate my circumstances.

 

[brihard]

Fun thought: the next PM, for at least a brief period, will probably be chosen by a party leadership campaign in which voting is open to non-citizens and minors.

Zero potential for fuckery there at all.

 

[dapaterson]

Overtly open... Isn't the foreign interference report coming out at the end of this month, which may well detail covert efforts by non-citizens in prior party shenanigans.

 

[brihard]

Overtly open... Isn't the foreign interference report coming out at the end of this month, which may well detail covert efforts by non-citizens in prior party shenanigans.

Not sure, I know they’re reporting government but I don’t know offhand if it’s also to be made public. I don’t know if they’re doing a classified and a redacted version.

 

[vonGarvin]

Singh ran a defense lawyer practice, drives a Maserati and wears Rolex. I don’t understand why anyone truly thinks he’s substantially motivated by a relative pittance of a six year Parliamentary pension at age 65? He probably stands to make more money out of Parliament than in it.

He's a champagne socialist, so he wants every fucking penny he can squeeze out of the government, that's why.

 

[Good2Golf]

Fun thought: the next PM, for at least a brief period, will probably be chosen by the United Front Work Department a party leadership campaign in which voting is open to non-citizens and minors.

Zero potential for fuckery there at all.

TFTFY

For reference: https://foreigninterferencecommissi...bits_and_Presentations/Exhibits/CAN005811.pdf

 

[Remius]

Singh ran a defense lawyer practice, drives a Maserati and wears Rolex. I don’t understand why anyone truly thinks he’s substantially motivated by a relative pittance of a six year Parliamentary pension at age 65? He probably stands to make more money out of Parliament than in it.

I’m pretty much of this opinion. The guy lead the party without an MP salary or pension for what? Two years?

I suspect there is also a lot more at play.

1) pressure from his own caucus who stand to lose pensions and potentially their jobs. I bet the aftermarket world for most NDP mps isn’t anywhere near lucrative as it is for Conservative or Liberals

2) campaign readiness. The party has little money to mount any sort of effective election campaign. My guess is that this is the main driver and may be the message the party is telling JS.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Fun thought: the next PM, for at least a brief period, will probably be chosen by a party leadership campaign in which voting is open to non-citizens and minors.

Zero potential for fuckery there at all.

Han Dong loves this one trick

 

[Czech_pivo]

Singh ran a defense lawyer practice, drives a Maserati and wears Rolex. I don’t understand why anyone truly thinks he’s substantially motivated by a relative pittance of a six year Parliamentary pension at age 65? He probably stands to make more money out of Parliament than in it.

Any 'bolding' and 'italics' added below are from me.

At what age can Members receive their retirement allowance? Members who have accumulated at least 6 years of pensionable service may receive an unreduced retirement allowance, as follows:
 at age 55 for pensionable service accumulated before December 31, 2015; or
 at age 65 for pensionable service accumulated as of January 1, 2016.

Benefits paid under the pension plan are calculated using a formula that is based on the participant’s pensionable service and annual pensionable earnings over the five consecutive years of highest-paid pensionable service. The current benefit accrual rate is 3% per year of service. Benefits for pensionable service accumulated as of January 1, 2016, have been coordinated with the Canada Pension Plan (CPP) and the Québec Pension Plan (QPP).

Jagmeet Singh

Party Leader

$271,700

The above is valid as of this past summer.

As of March 31, 2020, the 'average' pension paid to a CDN MP is 69,842 - no small amount - and that's 5 yrs old so it has only gone up.

https://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Newsroom/Articles/FAQsPensionSalariesBenefits-Dissolution2021-ENG%20(final).pdf

Report on the Administration of the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act for the Fiscal Year Ended March 31, 2020 - Canada.ca

www.canada.ca

https://www.hilltimes.com/story/2024/07/15/how-much-do-party-leaders-and-their-top-deputies-make/427769/

 

[OldSolduer]

$ 69,842.

Wow -

 

[brihard]

Any 'bolding' and 'italics' added below are from me.

At what age can Members receive their retirement allowance? Members who have accumulated at least 6 years of pensionable service may receive an unreduced retirement allowance, as follows:
 at age 55 for pensionable service accumulated before December 31, 2015; or
 at age 65 for pensionable service accumulated as of January 1, 2016.

Benefits paid under the pension plan are calculated using a formula that is based on the participant’s pensionable service and annual pensionable earnings over the five consecutive years of highest-paid pensionable service. The current benefit accrual rate is 3% per year of service. Benefits for pensionable service accumulated as of January 1, 2016, have been coordinated with the Canada Pension Plan (CPP) and the Québec Pension Plan (QPP).

Jagmeet Singh

Party Leader

$271,700

The above is valid as of this past summer.

As of March 31, 2020, the 'average' pension paid to a CDN MP is 69,842 - no small amount - and that's 5 yrs old so it has only gone up.

https://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Newsroom/Articles/FAQsPensionSalariesBenefits-Dissolution2021-ENG%20(final).pdf

Report on the Administration of the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act for the Fiscal Year Ended March 31, 2020 - Canada.ca

www.canada.ca

https://www.hilltimes.com/story/2024/07/15/how-much-do-party-leaders-and-their-top-deputies-make/427769/

Yup, I’m aware.

Singh’s 46. I’m not convinced any of what’s going on here is particularly motivated by being vested into the MP pension come age 65. Not with his degree of existing wealth.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s better than a kick in the nuts with wet mukluks, but I think he has far more significant and short term interests and benefits than that.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Overtly open... Isn't the foreign interference report coming out at the end of this month, which may well detail covert efforts by non-citizens in prior party shenanigans.

If I understand the process correctly, still not too late for bots of all persuasions to get their Team Red memberships - enter now, enter often, operators are standing by!

I'm about 2/3 the way through this (caveat: it is marked ~3 1/2 hours long, but the first 30 minutes or so is black screen as they set up to do the live cast last night), and enjoyed so far 1) a former Team Red party director explaining what happens next on the party's side (hint: senior poobahs can change the rules to speed things up if needed, and it appears JT made his announcement before the party apparatus could even set up the process), and 2) Michelle Rempel-Garner explaining in detail what Team Blue has planned coming up, both campaigning (any leadership contender is cut of the same cloth as JT, so they can still sorta just fight JT) and governing ...

 

[Jarnhamar]

Yup, I’m aware.

Singh’s 46. I’m not convinced any of what’s going on here is particularly motivated by being vested into the MP pension come age 65. Not with his degree of existing wealth.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s better than a kick in the nuts with wet mukluks, but I think he has far more significant and short term interests and benefits than that.

It's entirely possible it's about principle to him. He believes he deserves a MP pension whether it's $65K or $6.

 

[Czech_pivo]

It's entirely possible it's about principle to him. He believes he deserves a MP pension whether it's $65K or $6.

Its like passing up 45k/yr from age 65 to death.

 

[Good2Golf]

Overtly open... Isn't the foreign interference report coming out at the end of this month, which may well detail covert efforts by non-citizens in prior party shenanigans.

Not sure, I know they’re reporting government but I don’t know offhand if it’s also to be made public. I don’t know if they’re doing a classified and a redacted version.

Is that, this?
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TFTFY

For reference: https://foreigninterferencecommissi...bits_and_Presentations/Exhibits/CAN005811.pdf

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Fox news - gloating ...

This bit about him visiting troops is interesting, starts at quote: