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Spr Earl
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Iike her sock‘s!
Are you an American or Canadian Company?
Exscuse me I see you are on the west coast of B.C.
Are you an American or Canadian Company?
Exscuse me I see you are on the west coast of B.C.
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Guy Cramer
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She‘s my sister-in-law (happly married), as said earlier, `look good, feel good, play good,‘ she has the first one down.
Currently the U.S. Navy SEAL‘s (NSWU-2) have scheduled testing with our Passive Negative Ion Generators with their snipers, U.S. Army Command, U.S. Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command, U.S. Marines G3, and NASA JPL are also testing it. Israeli Special Forces have also acquired some.
Negative Ions have no known side effects and have been recognized by the U.S. Navy to keep bridge crews awake and alert on night duty as they keep brain waves at a range close to 10 cycles a second (alert, yet calm) where active negative ion generators were installed on U.S. Navy flag ships. Other benefits appear to be increased reaction time, balance, stamina and endurance... Our generator doesn‘t require a power source and can be clipped on to the uniform. Our device is 3 1/2" long x 1 1/2" wide and about 1/2" thick clips on the collar or under brim of hats or helmets. It emits 600 negative ions per cubic centimetre.
As a Canadian company we looked at the fact that many of the command elements of the U.S. were interested and the Canadian Military was out of the loop. Looking to change this I have people contacting their friends in Canadian Military (my people are contacting a Colonel, Lieutenant, and a member of Joint Task Force Two) to send samples to for trails. We have obtained the new CADPAT Camouflage design and have a number of samples in CADPAT on hand for testing with the Canadian Forces Command and JTF2. We expect to price the Camouflage device around $15.00 CDN each.
Sincerely,
Guy Cramer, President
HyperStealth Biotechnology Corp.
www.hyperstealth.com
Currently the U.S. Navy SEAL‘s (NSWU-2) have scheduled testing with our Passive Negative Ion Generators with their snipers, U.S. Army Command, U.S. Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command, U.S. Marines G3, and NASA JPL are also testing it. Israeli Special Forces have also acquired some.
Negative Ions have no known side effects and have been recognized by the U.S. Navy to keep bridge crews awake and alert on night duty as they keep brain waves at a range close to 10 cycles a second (alert, yet calm) where active negative ion generators were installed on U.S. Navy flag ships. Other benefits appear to be increased reaction time, balance, stamina and endurance... Our generator doesn‘t require a power source and can be clipped on to the uniform. Our device is 3 1/2" long x 1 1/2" wide and about 1/2" thick clips on the collar or under brim of hats or helmets. It emits 600 negative ions per cubic centimetre.
As a Canadian company we looked at the fact that many of the command elements of the U.S. were interested and the Canadian Military was out of the loop. Looking to change this I have people contacting their friends in Canadian Military (my people are contacting a Colonel, Lieutenant, and a member of Joint Task Force Two) to send samples to for trails. We have obtained the new CADPAT Camouflage design and have a number of samples in CADPAT on hand for testing with the Canadian Forces Command and JTF2. We expect to price the Camouflage device around $15.00 CDN each.
Sincerely,
Guy Cramer, President
HyperStealth Biotechnology Corp.
www.hyperstealth.com
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Never mind desert cadpat. I found it ironic, that tonite, on Royal Canadian Air Farce the chicken cannon crew is now outfitted in cadpats. They‘ve exchanged their regular combats for the new stuff. Must have something to do with being a crown corp! So, while we don‘t know when we‘ll even see ours, civies are wearing it on tv (and not to properly either). On the good side, they had a serving reg and a reservist in full gear showing the flag. Let‘s hope the uniforms were only loaned for the one program or I‘ll be pissed. I suppose I could buy some from the surplus store in Edmonton, he‘s already got it in stock, for sale on EBay.
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Well the Cadpat was out in some suplus stores two yrs ago. I had mine then, remember the first issue was around in 98. But this was the FIRST issue. Its not the patented clothing we all got and getting, The first issue was in the old material not the new S***ie cloth it is now. You can keep it. Most of us are still wearing our old cbts, its better. So its not cool. It sucks for winter green/ white mix. They spent mils testing it and we here in Petawawa fault the first batch, They never did change it.
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IamCDN
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I saw a video clip on CNN. It was showing defense department footage of the latest assault on the bad guys. The Americans were wearing GREEN cold weather clothing. That should end the debate aboput Arid CADPAT. They will get it when it is ready, shame it wasn‘t ready earlier, but at least it is comming.
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Xavier Basora
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Hi all:
Not to complain or anything but I‘m quite surprised that the powers that be didn‘t also manufacture an urban combat pattern. According to the UN by 2020-or 2030 for the first time in human history slightly more than 60% of humanity willl ive in some kind of urban landscape.
One in passim comment: I‘m not surprised that teh American press makes the new marine patern sound like it was invented by americans. isn‘t the U.S. teh centre of all technological innovation?
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Not to complain or anything but I‘m quite surprised that the powers that be didn‘t also manufacture an urban combat pattern. According to the UN by 2020-or 2030 for the first time in human history slightly more than 60% of humanity willl ive in some kind of urban landscape.
One in passim comment: I‘m not surprised that teh American press makes the new marine patern sound like it was invented by americans. isn‘t the U.S. teh centre of all technological innovation?
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I‘ve always thought urban camo was a stupid idea. Operations would likely shft between urban and wilderness way to fast to make it practical.
Advancing through the woods towards teh city will make you look awful obvious in urban cam. Retreating away froim the city into the woods will also make you look awful obvious.
What color exactly is urban cam? I don‘t think there‘s been any proof of what exactly makes a good urban cam, far to much variety in colors in the city. Also, there‘s a world of difference between Mogadishu and Sarajevo or Berlin and Tokyo. What works in New York is useless in Kabul.
Advancing through the woods towards teh city will make you look awful obvious in urban cam. Retreating away froim the city into the woods will also make you look awful obvious.
What color exactly is urban cam? I don‘t think there‘s been any proof of what exactly makes a good urban cam, far to much variety in colors in the city. Also, there‘s a world of difference between Mogadishu and Sarajevo or Berlin and Tokyo. What works in New York is useless in Kabul.
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Xavier Basora
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Enfield:
I respectfully disagree. I‘ve been in cities and other urban agglomerations where there‘s no nature to speak of. Look at Mexico city or the favelas in Brazil. Tokyo is yet another.
I exclude parks because there‘re too small to make much difference in such areas.
Personally I think some desert combats would be quite effective. I‘d go further and argue that a mix of desert pattern pants and an urban jacket would be ideal.
In any case, I‘ll be very interested to see if the designers just take the temperate pattern and substitute the gren for a grey of some kind and make teh brown more reddish- like a burnt sienna or even ochre.
xavier
I respectfully disagree. I‘ve been in cities and other urban agglomerations where there‘s no nature to speak of. Look at Mexico city or the favelas in Brazil. Tokyo is yet another.
I exclude parks because there‘re too small to make much difference in such areas.
Personally I think some desert combats would be quite effective. I‘d go further and argue that a mix of desert pattern pants and an urban jacket would be ideal.
In any case, I‘ll be very interested to see if the designers just take the temperate pattern and substitute the gren for a grey of some kind and make teh brown more reddish- like a burnt sienna or even ochre.
xavier
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rceme_rat
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The difficulty with urban camo is equal to that of finding one "natural camo" -- there is too much diversity of urban environments. The villages and cities of the Middle East appear to have much different colouring than those of North America. E.g., where many of our small towns are brick and wood, most of the buildings I saw on the Golan were concrete. As a result, we may need more than one urban pattern. There is also the matter of seasons - are we going to develop a winter urban uniform, a summer urban uniform, etc?
Given our limited resources, we need to focus on reducing the number of line items in the system, not adding to them. Think of the effect each new pattern has - it affects uniforms, web gear, helmet covers, rain gear, boots, gloves, etc. Each kit item has to be carried in a multitude of sizes. These have to be stocked all over the country. Extras of each size are needed to ensure that each soldier is fitted correctly. Spares are required. The result of adopting a new pattern is exponential growth in waste.
Finally, who the **** is going to carry all this kit - if we are fighting in a mixed urban/rural environment, are we going to be changing continuously from one pattern into the other as we advance over several hundered miles of countryside??
Since urban patterns might be of great appeal to police forces, they may be the source of a product if it is proved necessary. While most seem to wear black, research on camo could lead to the development of a more effective mix of colour, pattern and shading. Perhaps we can let the private sector take the lead on developing product for this immense market - and we can then see whether anything worthwhile can be gleaned from their efforts. Even then, it seems like it might be best suited for equipping small teams for specialist missions.
In short - we can spend our resources more effectively than by worrying about urban camo.
Given our limited resources, we need to focus on reducing the number of line items in the system, not adding to them. Think of the effect each new pattern has - it affects uniforms, web gear, helmet covers, rain gear, boots, gloves, etc. Each kit item has to be carried in a multitude of sizes. These have to be stocked all over the country. Extras of each size are needed to ensure that each soldier is fitted correctly. Spares are required. The result of adopting a new pattern is exponential growth in waste.
Finally, who the **** is going to carry all this kit - if we are fighting in a mixed urban/rural environment, are we going to be changing continuously from one pattern into the other as we advance over several hundered miles of countryside??
Since urban patterns might be of great appeal to police forces, they may be the source of a product if it is proved necessary. While most seem to wear black, research on camo could lead to the development of a more effective mix of colour, pattern and shading. Perhaps we can let the private sector take the lead on developing product for this immense market - and we can then see whether anything worthwhile can be gleaned from their efforts. Even then, it seems like it might be best suited for equipping small teams for specialist missions.
In short - we can spend our resources more effectively than by worrying about urban camo.
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