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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Canada says it will look at increasing its defence spending and tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever growing sanctions list.

By Tonda MacCharles
Ottawa Bureau
Mon., March 7, 2022

Riga, LATVIA—On the 13th day of the brutal Russian bid to claim Ukraine as its own, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing up at the Latvian battle group led by Canadian soldiers, waving the Maple Leaf and a vague hint at more money for the military.

Canada has been waving the NATO flag for nearly seven years in Latvia as a bulwark against Russia’s further incursions in Eastern Europe.

Canada stepped up to lead one of NATO’s four battle groups in 2015 — part of the defensive alliance’s display of strength and solidarity with weaker member states after Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Trudeau arrived in the Latvian capital late Monday after meetings in the U.K. with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

Earlier Monday, faced with a seemingly unstoppable war in Ukraine, Trudeau said he will look at increasing Canada’s defence spending. Given world events, he said there are “certainly reflections to have.”

And Canada tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever-growing sanctions list.

The latest round of sanctions includes names Trudeau said were identified by jailed Russian opposition leader and Putin nemesis Alexei Navalny.

However, on a day when Trudeau cited the new sanctions, and Johnson touted new measures meant to expose Russian property owners in his country, Rutte admitted sanctions are not working.

Yet they all called for more concerted international efforts over the long haul, including more economic measures and more humanitarian aid, with Johnson and Rutte divided over how quickly countries need to get off Russian oil and gas.

The 10 latest names on Canada’s target list do not include Roman Abramovich — a Russian billionaire Navalny has been flagging to Canada since at least 2017. Canada appears to have sanctioned about 20 of the 35 names on Navalny’s list.

The Conservative opposition says the Liberal government is not yet exerting maximum pressure on Putin, and should do more to bolster Canadian Forces, including by finally approving the purchase of fighter jets.

Foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said in an interview that Ottawa must still sanction “additional oligarchs close to President Putin who have significant assets in Canada.”

Abramovich owns more than a quarter of the public shares in steelmaking giant Evraz, which has operations in Alberta and Saskatchewan and has supplied most of the steel for the government-owned Trans Mountain pipeline project.

Evraz’s board of directors also includes two more Russians the U.S. government identified as “oligarchs” in 2019 — Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov — and its Canadian operations have received significant support from the federal government.

That includes at least $27 million in emergency wage subsidies during the pandemic, as well as $7 million through a fund meant to help heavy-polluters reduce emissions that cause climate change, according to the company’s most recent annual report.

In addition to upping defence spending, the Conservatives want NORAD’s early warning system upgraded, naval shipbuilding ramped up and Arctic security bolstered.

In London, Johnson sat down with Trudeau and Rutte at the Northolt airbase. Their morning meetings had a rushed feel, with Johnson starting to usher press out before Trudeau spoke. His office said later that the British PM couldn’t squeeze the full meeting in at 10 Downing Street because Johnson’s “diary” was so busy that day. The three leaders held an afternoon news conference at 10 Downing.

But before that Trudeau met with the Queen, saying she was “insightful” and they had a “useful, for me anyway, conversation about global affairs.”

Trudeau meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday in Latvia.

The prime minister will also meet with three Baltic leaders, the prime ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, in the Latvian capital of Riga.

The Liberals announced they would increase the 500 Canadian Forces in Latvia by another 460 troops. The Canadians are leading a multinational battle group, one of four that are part of NATO’s deployments in the region.

Another 3,400 Canadians could be deployed to the region in the months to come, on standby for NATO orders.

But Canada’s shipments of lethal aid to Ukraine were slow to come in the view of the Conservatives, and the Ukrainian Canadian community.

And suddenly Western allies are eyeing each other’s defence commitments.

At the Downing Street news conference, Rutte noted the Netherlands will increase its defence budget to close to two per cent of GDP. Germany has led the G7, and doubled its defence budget in the face of Putin’s invasion and threats. Johnson said the U.K. defence spending is about 2.4 per cent and declined to comment on Canada’s defence spending which is 1.4 per cent of GDP.

But Johnson didn’t hold back.

“What we can’t do, post the invasion of Ukraine is assume that we go back to a kind of status quo ante, a kind of new normalization in the way that we did after the … seizure of Crimea and the Donbas area,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to recognize that things have changed and that we need a new focus on security and I think that that is kind of increasingly understood by everybody.”

Trudeau stood by his British and Dutch counterparts and pledged Canada would do more.

He defended his government’s record, saying Ottawa is gradually increasing spending over the next decade by 70 per cent. Then Trudeau admitted more might be necessary.

“We also recognize that context is changing rapidly around the world and we need to make sure that women and men have certainty and our forces have all the equipment necessary to be able to stand strongly as we always have. As members of NATO. We will continue to look at what more we can do.”

The three leaders — Johnson, a conservative and Trudeau and Rutte, progressive liberals — in a joint statement said they “will continue to impose severe costs on Russia.”

Arriving for the news conference from Windsor Castle, Trudeau had to detour to enter Downing Street as loud so-called Freedom Convoy protesters bellowed from outside the gate. They carried signs marked “Tuck Frudeau” and “Free Tamara” (Lich).

Protester Jeff Wyatt who said he has no Canadian ties told the Star he came to stand up for Lich and others who were leading a “peaceful protest” worldwide against government “lies” about COVID-19 and what he called Trudeau’s “tyranny.”

Elsewhere in London, outside the Russian embassy, other protesters and passersby reflected on what they said was real tyranny — the Russian attack on Ukraine. “I think we should be as tough as possible to get this stopped, as tough as possible,” said protester Clive Martinez.
 
Part of the political issue I see as well is NDHQ needs start saying "No" the politicians keep committing us to things like a full brigade it Latvia, etc tell us to make it happen while trying to rebuild, reconstitute etc. We are getting pulled in every direction, not to mention domestic ops, and No one seems to be willing to say "sorry sir we can't actually meet these commitments" to the MND or cabinet.
As I recall didn't Hiller war people about this just after our first deployment to Afghanistan ?
And I argue we were in probably better shape then.
 
Except the Navy does force generation during force employment, so that balance always causes friction with CJOC.

It is wild that we do this. This and the state of our ships... god help the first crews to go into harms way.
 
What we need is a full L1 mutiny... resignation. We need senior leaders willing to sacrifice their careers for the institution. The politicians now are signing the execution warrants for the troops in contact tomorrow. Bloody shameful. This government (or any government in recent memory) doesn't deserve its military.
 
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It is wild that we do this. This and the state of our ships... god help the first crews to go into harms way.
Not really, a lot of our billets are a combination of having a job while doing training, so pretty normal to be working on OJTs for the next job while doing one of the MSE positions until you get to the EO/CERA spots (and then you are doing the oversight of training).

Tapers way down but no better way to figure out how to do the next job then watching someone else do it and then practicing it yourself. Also things like directing repair parties etc are all pretty core skills, and a lot easier to figure out while deployed when you can ask someone for advice or checking your plan.

Even once you are the final stop, you still talk it through with the team, but it's pretty easy to keep doing training without interfering with the work, and frankly we need to do the drills regularly anyway to make sure things are actually working.
 
What we need is a full L1 mutiny... resignation. We need senior leaders willing to sacrifice their careers for the institution.

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Not really, a lot of our billets are a combination of having a job while doing training, so pretty normal to be working on OJTs for the next job while doing one of the MSE positions until you get to the EO/CERA spots (and then you are doing the oversight of training).

Tapers way down but no better way to figure out how to do the next job then watching someone else do it and then practicing it yourself. Also things like directing repair parties etc are all pretty core skills, and a lot easier to figure out while deployed when you can ask someone for advice or checking your plan.

Even once you are the final stop, you still talk it through with the team, but it's pretty easy to keep doing training without interfering with the work, and frankly we need to do the drills regularly anyway to make sure things are actually working.

Working on packages is one thing, rotating good positions of crews every 2 or 3 months is another.

It's also one thing for engineers and another for Ops folks.

We pushed back very hard and beat most of it away, we were lucky.
 
Part of the political issue I see as well is NDHQ needs start saying "No" the politicians keep committing us to things like a full brigade it Latvia, etc tell us to make it happen while trying to rebuild, reconstitute etc. We are getting pulled in every direction, not to mention domestic ops, and No one seems to be willing to say "sorry sir we can't actually meet these commitments" to the MND or cabinet.

You might be surprised to see how things work, how options are presented by those organizations for leadership to consider.

In the immortal words of Pogo possum, we have met the enemy, and he is us.
 
What we need is a full L1 mutiny... resignation. We need senior leaders willing to sacrifice their careers for the institution. The politicians now are signing the execution warrants for the troops in contact tomorrow. Bloody shameful. This government (or any government in recent memory) doesn't deserve its military.
I donno. Even if all the L1 Commanders resigned tomorrow in protest, after a few days of coverage on CBC (complete with brain-melting posts in the comments sections), they would all be promptly replaced; back to 'business as usual'.

Now is the time for leadership, not rearranging of deck chairs.

Looking back, there were some very high profile resignations during the lead up to Unification....what did that achieve?
 
I donno. Even if all the L1 Commanders resigned tomorrow in protest, after a few days of coverage on CBC (complete with brain-melting posts in the comments sections), they would all be promptly replaced; back to 'business as usual'.

Now is the time for leadership, not rearranging of deck chairs.

Looking back, there were some very high profile resignations during the lead up to Unification....what did that achieve?
Good point. Let's be real too, were so beyond the point of any return, no government is going to near-double defence spending and loosen their byzantine procurement regulations, it gives them a very efficient cost-saving tool by being able to return billions to TBS every year haha.
 
Good point. Let's be real too, were so beyond the point of any return, no government is going to near-double defence spending and loosen their byzantine procurement regulations, it gives them a very efficient cost-saving tool by being able to return billions to TBS every year haha.

Explain what you mean by "return billions to TBS every year". Are you familiar with how the GoC does accrual accounting vs cash-based financial management? Can you discuss the OBCF and how it operates?

Interestingly, in the Supplementary estimates recently tabled, the GoC is seeking to give DND an additional billion dollars in capital funding this FY for the Husky and Polaris acquisitions.

 
Explain what you mean by "return billions to TBS every year". Are you familiar with how the GoC does accrual accounting vs cash-based financial management? Can you discuss the OBCF and how it operates?

Interestingly, in the Supplementary estimates recently tabled, the GoC is seeking to give DND an additional billion dollars in capital funding this FY for the Husky and Polaris acquisitions.

Dude, no need to try and dunk lol. This is a niche, legacy internet forum and none of us or our opinions on the state of the CAF matter in the grand scheme. I'm obviously being hyperbolic. Of course I don't know (or care) "how the GoC does accrual accounting vs cash-based financial management". I know my job in the MO and I'm very knowledgeable in the ins and outs of the Act that governs my civilian job.

We're shitting on successive governments and their failure to give a care about the CAF, that's it.
 
Dude, no need to try and dunk lol. This is a niche, legacy internet forum and none of us or our opinions on the state of the CAF matter in the grand scheme. I'm obviously being hyperbolic. Of course I don't know (or care) "how the GoC does accrual accounting vs cash-based financial management". I know my job in the MO and I'm very knowledgeable in the ins and outs of the Act that governs my civilian job.

We're shitting on successive governments and their failure to give a care about the CAF, that's it.

Following approval of the Supps C, the GoC will have given DND/CAF $31,272,655,246 in authorities this FY. Do you know how it is managed?
 
I may be an old broken retired dude who is out of the loop but I am pretty sure we are not giving the Canadian people (our real Boss) $31B worth of National Defence...

No, but most of that $31Bn is returned to the government Canadian taxpayer in the form of porkbarelling reinvestment in Canadian Industry and other Ponzi schemes programs we are roped in on partnered in.

Remember, DND/CAF is the largest government department (that shouldnt be a government department) and thus we need to be prudent stewards of fiscal responsib- I can't finish that sentence without throwing up.

We are another economic stimulus package to Canadian industries that cannot support our defence requirements. Our government does not see us as more than a hog, fed scraps, only to be slaughtered when the cows and chickens stop producing milk and eggs.
 
No, but most of that $31Bn is returned to the government Canadian taxpayer in the form of porkbarelling reinvestment in Canadian Industry and other Ponzi schemes programs we are roped in on partnered in.

Remember, DND/CAF is the largest government department (that shouldnt be a government department) and thus we need to be prudent stewards of fiscal responsib- I can't finish that sentence without throwing up.

We are another economic stimulus package to Canadian industries that cannot support our defence requirements. Our government does not see us as more than a hog, fed scraps, only to be slaughtered when the cows and chickens stop producing milk and eggs.
Industry and the CAF are like Chickens and Pigs for breakfast.

The chicken is involved. The pig is committed.

We be the pig.

Just sayin'
 
I may be an old broken retired dude who is out of the loop but I am pretty sure we are not giving the Canadian people (our real Boss) $31B worth of National Defence...
Although perhaps arguably better than the $60B/year spent on our massively increased since 2015, but no more substantively productive federal public service… 😉
 
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