Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

[chrisf]

For the old res sig op QL3, there was a pre-apprentice portion, mostly VP... which in theory was completed by students when they arrived in kingston... whether they had actually completed it, and to what standard, was an entirely different matter...

 

[PuckChaser]

For the old res sig op QL3, there was a pre-apprentice portion, mostly VP... which in theory was completed by students when they arrived in kingston... whether they had actually completed it, and to what standard, was an entirely different matter...

Yep. I can see this same thing happening with the RegF for the continuation training. My unit doesn't have linemen, how am I supposed to get up to DP3a ACISS level of line knowledge/skill without linemen? Guys are going to be showing up for their next ACISS core DP level, and have no clue about the other 2 trades because CFSCE has washed their hands of everyone except PATs. Or they'll be given wrong information and hopefully someone won't end up hurt.

 

[Sigger]

Apologies if this was answered.. Could not find anything in regards to this.

I am SigOp QL3 trained.
I released a tad shy of 3 years ago(family reasons) after completing my contract.
I am rejoining.
I was advised by recruiters all trades are closed, however they just rx a message stating ACISS will have 20 positions open 1 Jan.

Any ideas how reentry will work as far as postings/trg go? I would really like to stay in Kingston(where I released) as my children are here, and am hoping JSR(or wherever) would be able to take me in. Any thoughts on possibilities for being posted to JSR?

Also, is there a DP breakdown of equivalencies for the old QL3 trg?

 

[chrisf]

There's no direct conversion from QL to DP per say...

The idea is they broke your career into "development phases", if I remember right there's 5 (6?). I'm sure it's covered elsewhere in the forum....

 

[JSR OP]

Sigger, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you will most likely be treated as though there was no joining of the trades, and that you will be brought back in based on the qualifications that you have already gained.  grandfathered if you will.

I was going to say that CFJSR may be able to take you in, but I got thinking about it and since you released completely and (I'm making an assumption here) you didn't join the PRes, that you are not going to be considered "green" when it comes to being deployable, and as far I remember, pers have to be green to be posted here.

 

[chrisf]

Would 2 EW have posistions?

 

[JSR OP]

Would 2 EW have posistions?

They do have Sig Op positions, but I don't know what their "readiness" status would be at.  As far I know, Sig Ops there are more like training aids and don't deploy that much.

Oh, BTW, its 21 EW Regt now, not 2 EW Sqn

 

[PuckChaser]

Would 2 EW have posistions?

I would not recommend this posting to a worst enemy of mine.

There are 13 positions at this unit for SigOps currently (none available) and I have no idea how they'll be broken down after ACISS.

 

[chrisf]

I would not recommend this posting to a worst enemy of mine.

Bad enough that somone would be better off at JSR? That must be bad....

Walking towards JSR reminds me of that scene in Quest for the Holy Grail when they arrive at Camelot...

"Behold! The joint signals regiment!"
"JSR!"
"JSR!"
[brief song and dance number featuring sig ops tap dancing on a large sat dish]
"On second thought, let's not go to JSR. Tis a silly place."

(Though in fairness, I only spent a month there, twas a silly place)

 

[JSR OP]

Ok, now that was funny!

 

[211RadOp]

I was going to say that CFJSR may be able to take you in, but I got thinking about it and since you released completely and (I'm making an assumption here) you didn't join the PRes, that you are not going to be considered "green" when it comes to being deployable, and as far I remember, pers have to be green to be posted here.

Not for the last three posting cycles.  They trialed it APS '08 and have continued it since.

 

[JSR OP]

Not for the last three posting cycles.  They trialed it APS '08 and have continued it since.

I stand corrected.

 

[Sigger]

I appreciate the reply.
I did confirm with a friend in JSR who advised being green is not required. When I was posted frm CMTC to JSR the only Green I had was BFT.

 

[greydak]

I'm in the process of doing a component transfer to Line Technician and I just got an email from the Component Transfer Section in Ottawa saying that I have to go for an interview at my local recruiting centre to start the process for “MOSID 00110 LCIS TECH - TEC SICT”

  Does anyone know if the sig trade amalgamation has anything to do with this seeing as I didn't choose LCIS Tech as a trade, I asked for Line Tech.

Also assuming this is due to the amalgamation, what are my chances if I do transfer to LCIS Tech, that I will still end up a lineman?

Thanks

 

[PuckChaser]

Lineman is full up, and has been for a while. You're being offered LCIS because its undermanned, but is in the C&E Branch.

Your chances are pretty slim that you'll end up a LST (the new Lineman name) if you join ACISS, as LST will be filled with members already trained or waiting to be trained.

 

[greydak]

I asked the Wo in Ottawa and he said to "Check out the job descriptions on the CF recruiting web site" but im pretty sure the recruiting web site isn't up to date?

 

[JSR OP]

The screening process for pers posted to CFJSR may be reinstated for this APS

 

[greydak]

So PuckChaser & JSR OP, since you seem to have a clue as to whats going on.. What would the process be like once I show up in Kingston?

 

[JSR OP]

So PuckChaser & JSR OP, since you seem to have a clue as to whats going on.. What would the process be like once I show up in Kingston?

Well, I can tell you that when I showed up here, I had already talked to the Career Manager, who informed me where I'd be going. 

If you do get posted here, you'll most likely show up in Dress of the day (CadPat), with posting message in hand.  You may or may not have a contact within the regiment who will meet you and show you were to go.  If you don't, you may stumble around blindly until someone sees that your lost, or you may walk up to someone and ask where the Regimental Orderly Room is.  If you do have a contact here, (s)he'll meet you at some predetermined location, and bring you to the ROR, you'll get a clearance card, maybe do some paper work there, then head down to the troop room and meet your part of your CoC, and the rest of the troop, then continue with the clearing in.

To be honest, its been some time since I've been in the troops, so I'm not really up to date on what happens when new pers arrive at the regiment.  Maybe someone who had recently dealt with new pers arriving could provide more info?  Anyone?  Was I close?

 

[Swingline1984]

I'm pretty sure he'll go to CFSCE before he ever has to worry about being sucked up into the mothership.