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Isn't the Unit/Branch representing the CFs? What about my flight suits, what am I supposed to wear on the shoulders/name tags? I've never seen any issued badges for flight suits.
George Wallace said:You are wrong. The CF does require you to wear it, and the CF does supply you with the Buttons and badges to wear. It is the Units/Branches who demand you wear their accoutraments, not the generic CF ones. Some Units do give an initial "Free Issue" of Regimental accoutraments, for one set of DEU. If the individual wants more they must purchase them out of their own pocket.
So, it is not the CF that is not providing, but the Unit/Branch.
SupersonicMax said:Isn't the Unit/Branch representing the CFs? What about my flight suits, what am I supposed to wear on the shoulders/name tags? I've never seen any issued badges for flight suits.
Eye In The Sky said:My own personal opinion is that if the CF requires me to wear it, then the CF should provide it. Now I know thats not the way it is, and I know I'll have to buy my own patches too and I'll just do it like everyone else (small price to pay to be in the best MOCs in the CF IMO).
SupersonicMax said:CDN Aviator, then they should ammend our Squadron order. They do require us to have the Unit, Aircraft and name tag.
CDN Aviator said:You are NOT required to wear the unit heraldic on the flightsuit. You are not required to wear an aircraft badge on your flightsuit. You are NOT required to wear a Sqn nametag on your flightsuit. Dress regulations only require you to wear rank badges, wings and name tag, all of which are provided by the system
Then tell your CoC to talk to their G4s ... because the G4s in every LF Area HQ --- got it at the same time that I did due to my linkage with Clothing Stores; I then got it from the 3 ASG G4, the CTC G4 ... I've gotten it lots of times in my CoC. Seems things may not be passed on in this case as they should be within yours.Klc said:As for the unrelated venting I unfortunately spewed out (mostly caused by me getting several blasts of poo for not having a gasmask carrier in the field; and the subsequent 3 blasts of a horn signifying my impending 'death')
All I was saying is (and shortly after posting I did read the OTHER cap badge thread) that if these are regulations, my CoC; who tell me that I am full of poop when I tell them why I don't have a gasmask carrier, or why I don't have a second beret (no capbadge on it); are not at all aware of them, and act as if they have never heard of this before.
I'd PM you asking for some direction on where to start my search for some sort of official reg to show WHY I couldn't get the carrier - but I don't exactly think it would be welcome. I will continue to search official sources on my own.
P.S. - The $70 was a surprise required purchase that not only did I not budget for, but could not afford at the time. that and only that was my point of contention on that issue.
Eye In The Sky said:But the LS and the civie staff were obviously not impressed that they had to do this, not that I personally gave a f**k. Oddly enough, they had a cash sales up there for recruits to purchase pretty much any item of kit they 'lost'. I'd like to have all the $ from recruits who had to purchase stuff they signed for, but had never really been issued initially with that dickhead LS from Clothing writing lists out and never actually getting the kit to the troops, who walked out being ordered to sign their name despite missing kit.
They tried some of the same stuff with me, handing me a bag of kit and telling me to "sign here". I said "I will sign once you I can check for each piece of kit, and to see that its actually serviceable to start off with".
Eye In The Sky said:My own personal opinion is that if the CF requires me to wear it, then the CF should provide it. Now I know thats not the way it is, and I know I'll have to buy my own patches too and I'll just do it like everyone else (small price to pay to be in the best MOCs in the CF IMO).
If its part of the uniform, the troops should be issued it, not have to pay for it. I too bought all my Regimental collar/shoulder dogs, buttons, etc. I just never thought it made sense. The CF shouldn't order people to wear something that they have to pay for out of pocket, those items should be in the supply system IMO.
If they decide to buy something better (berets is an example, when the ones from Logistik were crap) then all the power to them.
SupersonicMax said:Isn't the Unit/Branch representing the CFs? What about my flight suits, what am I supposed to wear on the shoulders/name tags? I've never seen any issued badges for flight suits.
ArtyNewbie said:He should have had 1 Jimmy cap badge issued, through the system, the rest are his to purchase. Same goes for branch accoutrements, I don't recall paying for my initial issue when I was a Jimmy.
PuckChaser said:Only branch thing I had to buy was Jimmy buttons for the DEU, but I've never seen a written order that said I needed them, just didn't want to rock the boat.
geo said:Umm... is the problem with the Clothing stores OR is the problem with the recruit instructors ???
Methinks that the instructors contribute heavily to the mayhem
Run away gun said:Watching someone try that on a QL3 would be amusing.
MedTech said:The only thing I had to buy when I was green was 1) Beret, Silk band, Belgique
2) Buttons, DEU, Medical Branch
3) Cap badge, Officer, Wire
That cost me a whopping...$30 the most expensive thing was the capbadge. I took pride in my branch and my MOC so I went out and bought the nice ones on my own. Sure I had the issued one, and that went quickly in my FMP.
I guess it's a pride thing. I am proud to be serving in a particular branch, unit, regiment. If I was AF I'd get my patches without complaint because it's pride.
When I got my NCDs I didn't have any nametapes, and I knew they would take a few weeks to get to me. So instead of looking like an idiot without a nametape, I went out and purchased them. Could I not have done that? Sure. But again... It's... A pride thing.
and when you become an officer OR sr NCONFLD Sapper said:The only things I purchased for the DEU's was my Branch buttons, Branch flashing for the Shirt slip ons, and eventually the Branch Cerenmonial Belt Buckle. Everthing else was issued from Clothing. No idea why they made you buy every out of pocket. ???