I'll believe it when I see it.
Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending
- Thread starter Maxman1
- Start date
- Reaction score
- 9,140
- Points
- 1,360
I too like to dream
- Reaction score
- 9,140
- Points
- 1,360
Subs aren't Ships! They are boats!!!! #pedanticnonsenseensues!
- Reaction score
- 6,495
- Points
- 1,310
With how long they've been in dry dock, I think they're closer to being monuments/museum pieces vice boats.
My 5 year old daughter's inflatable Lobster ride on has spend more time patrolling our shores than some of our subs...
- Reaction score
- 9,140
- Points
- 1,360
Don't tell the "Submariners" you might hurt their feelings.
#tipofthespearintheirownminds
I make that joke as someone who wanted to be a submariner because IMO, they will be a way more useful weapon of war when WW3 breaks out.
IRepoCans
Member
- Reaction score
- 108
- Points
- 580
Oddly enough, they have designed their courseware to take suitable candidates from zero to 100 with an almost BMQ/SQ like (without the yelling and theatrics) package of instruction on small arms, marksmanship, fieldcraft and small unit tactics. They have also done this for a while, a good chunk of SFC and SOAC is spent on getting candidates all onto the same baseline of field soldering with little care to the background of the individual candidates.
Hell, now with the creation of the hard Special Operations Officer trade group they're truly locking in their pers to the SOF world and seem to be cutting as many of the trifling strings of the greater CAF as they can for better or worse.
- Reaction score
- 7,484
- Points
- 1,160
Could they second a couple of bodies to CADTC?
- Reaction score
- 9,140
- Points
- 1,360
Do you want people to kill themselves?!
If you're a young, fit, dynamic and ambitious person.... CADTC is not the place to be.
- Reaction score
- 7,484
- Points
- 1,160
Do you want people to kill themselves?!
If you're a young, fit, dynamic and ambitious person.... CADTC is not the place to be.
A sacrifice for the greater good....
And a cost savings? Swap out a Maj General for a couple of Warrants?
- Reaction score
- 6,495
- Points
- 1,310
Do you want people to kill themselves?!
If you're a young, fit, dynamic and ambitious person.... CADTC is not the place to be.
- Reaction score
- 9,140
- Points
- 1,360
I say that because I worked there for a couple of years. Did a stint as an Aide and then had to mark time there for a bit. I wanted to kneecap myself
A substantial portion of people there fall in the Q1 quadrant. Low Engagement/Low Results
Quirky
Army.ca Veteran
- Reaction score
- 3,067
- Points
- 1,260
That's the sweet spot to be in the CAF. Low engagement, low results, but same pay as the high achievers! Who are the suckers now...
daftandbarmy
Army.ca Dinosaur
- Reaction score
- 27,067
- Points
- 1,160
I say that because I worked there for a couple of years. Did a stint as an Aide and then had to mark time there for a bit. I wanted to kneecap myself
A substantial portion of people there fall in the Q1 quadrant. Low Engagement/Low Results
View attachment 79368
I'm more convinced that the CAF is all about Q3, which leads to suggest deeper failings in Q1
MilEME09
Army.ca Veteran
- Reaction score
- 2,393
- Points
- 1,210
The truth, is we are a broken shell of an organization, with senior leaders to busy on vanity/retirement/empire building projects to actually want to engage in the drastic changes we need in order to recover and properly reconstitute. Look at Force 2025, we picked the least risky option, that may not even deliver what we desire. Why? We are too risk adverse now
Now you are talkinA sacrifice for the greater good....
And a cost savings? Swap out a Maj General for a couple of Warrants?
OldSolduer
Army.ca Relic
- Reaction score
- 12,700
- Points
- 1,140
Good diagram - Q4 is optimal but sometimes Q3 might be necessary.I say that because I worked there for a couple of years. Did a stint as an Aide and then had to mark time there for a bit. I wanted to kneecap myself
A substantial portion of people there fall in the Q1 quadrant. Low Engagement/Low Results
View attachment 79368
Agreed.
We are too risk adverse across the spectrum, and it's being that risk adverse which negatively affects the options we can present to government when a crisis arises, negatively affects the opinions of our allies, and turns away potential recruits at a time when we NEED THEM... (Just my opinion)
I haven't deployed since 2010 so it would be out of my lane to comment on whether or not our operations are too risk adverse or not, both in choice of missions a d execution.
daftandbarmy
Army.ca Dinosaur
- Reaction score
- 27,067
- Points
- 1,160
The CAF is not alone:
Your Company Is Too Risk-Averse
Here’s why and what to do about it.In theory, companies create value for stakeholders by making risky investments. In practice, however, managers in large corporations routinely quash risky ideas in favor of marginal improvements, cost-cutting, and “safe” investments.
Why are managers in large, hierarchical organizations so risk-averse? Corporate incentives and control processes actively discourage managers from taking risks. Whereas CEOs consider each investment in the context of a greater portfolio, managers essentially bet their careers on every investment they make—even if outcomes are negligible to the corporation as a whole.
This article explains how loss aversion works, presents an analysis of just how much value manager attitudes toward investment risk leave on the table, and offers suggestions for changes in practices and systems.
Your Company Is Too Risk-Averse
In theory, companies create value for stakeholders by making risky investments. In practice, however, managers in large corporations routinely quash risky ideas in favor of marginal improvements, cost-cutting, and “safe” investments. Why are managers in large, hierarchical organizations so...
hbr.org
QV
Army.ca Veteran
- Reaction score
- 2,578
- Points
- 1,010
Peter MacKay: The urgent need to fix Canada's military — and how to do it
Advice from a former defence minister to one just starting
nationalpost.com
The most important thing from Peter McKay is his suggestion to depoliticize defence spending.
Snip:
The first thing that must be done is to call for a détente. The government and opposition must come together to work on de-politicizing defence generally and procurement specifically. This doesn’t mean that the government should be absolved of responsibility for legitimate shortcomings, nor that the opposition stop asking questions, but rather that all parties should agree that the fundamentals of defence and procurement must have continuity between governments and must be defined by interparty co-operation rather than political competition.
If defence can be de-politicized, even in part, much more progress can be made toward cutting bureaucratic processes designed to insulate politicians, allowing us to reduce costly delays and finally get our men and women in uniform the tools and resources they most need, much more quickly than is currently possible. The spectacular failures of the Sea King helicopter, Victoria class submarine and ongoing and escalating CF-18 Fighter replacement programs, costing billions and causing long delays for short-term political gain, highlight this pressing need. Partisan political games and broken promises have devastating implications for those who risk their lives in the CAF.
OldSolduer
Army.ca Relic
- Reaction score
- 12,700
- Points
- 1,140
FJAG
Army.ca Legend
- Reaction score
- 11,570
- Points
- 1,160
We've had this thread for over a year now and I haven't seen any concrete evidence that Trudeau is boosting military spending. Every time I click on this thread I'm dissapointed.
Perhaps we should use truth in advertising principles and rename the thread "Justin Trudeau still has done nothing about boosting Canada's military spending."
Perhaps we should use truth in advertising principles and rename the thread "Justin Trudeau still has done nothing about boosting Canada's military spending."
Similar threads
- Article
