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Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

Canada says it will look at increasing its defence spending and tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever growing sanctions list.

By Tonda MacCharles
Ottawa Bureau
Mon., March 7, 2022

Riga, LATVIA—On the 13th day of the brutal Russian bid to claim Ukraine as its own, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is showing up at the Latvian battle group led by Canadian soldiers, waving the Maple Leaf and a vague hint at more money for the military.

Canada has been waving the NATO flag for nearly seven years in Latvia as a bulwark against Russia’s further incursions in Eastern Europe.

Canada stepped up to lead one of NATO’s four battle groups in 2015 — part of the defensive alliance’s display of strength and solidarity with weaker member states after Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean peninsula in 2014. Trudeau arrived in the Latvian capital late Monday after meetings in the U.K. with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

Earlier Monday, faced with a seemingly unstoppable war in Ukraine, Trudeau said he will look at increasing Canada’s defence spending. Given world events, he said there are “certainly reflections to have.”

And Canada tacked on 10 more Russian names to an ever-growing sanctions list.

The latest round of sanctions includes names Trudeau said were identified by jailed Russian opposition leader and Putin nemesis Alexei Navalny.

However, on a day when Trudeau cited the new sanctions, and Johnson touted new measures meant to expose Russian property owners in his country, Rutte admitted sanctions are not working.

Yet they all called for more concerted international efforts over the long haul, including more economic measures and more humanitarian aid, with Johnson and Rutte divided over how quickly countries need to get off Russian oil and gas.

The 10 latest names on Canada’s target list do not include Roman Abramovich — a Russian billionaire Navalny has been flagging to Canada since at least 2017. Canada appears to have sanctioned about 20 of the 35 names on Navalny’s list.

The Conservative opposition says the Liberal government is not yet exerting maximum pressure on Putin, and should do more to bolster Canadian Forces, including by finally approving the purchase of fighter jets.

Foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said in an interview that Ottawa must still sanction “additional oligarchs close to President Putin who have significant assets in Canada.”

Abramovich owns more than a quarter of the public shares in steelmaking giant Evraz, which has operations in Alberta and Saskatchewan and has supplied most of the steel for the government-owned Trans Mountain pipeline project.

Evraz’s board of directors also includes two more Russians the U.S. government identified as “oligarchs” in 2019 — Aleksandr Abramov and Aleksandr Frolov — and its Canadian operations have received significant support from the federal government.

That includes at least $27 million in emergency wage subsidies during the pandemic, as well as $7 million through a fund meant to help heavy-polluters reduce emissions that cause climate change, according to the company’s most recent annual report.

In addition to upping defence spending, the Conservatives want NORAD’s early warning system upgraded, naval shipbuilding ramped up and Arctic security bolstered.

In London, Johnson sat down with Trudeau and Rutte at the Northolt airbase. Their morning meetings had a rushed feel, with Johnson starting to usher press out before Trudeau spoke. His office said later that the British PM couldn’t squeeze the full meeting in at 10 Downing Street because Johnson’s “diary” was so busy that day. The three leaders held an afternoon news conference at 10 Downing.

But before that Trudeau met with the Queen, saying she was “insightful” and they had a “useful, for me anyway, conversation about global affairs.”

Trudeau meets with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg Tuesday in Latvia.

The prime minister will also meet with three Baltic leaders, the prime ministers of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, in the Latvian capital of Riga.

The Liberals announced they would increase the 500 Canadian Forces in Latvia by another 460 troops. The Canadians are leading a multinational battle group, one of four that are part of NATO’s deployments in the region.

Another 3,400 Canadians could be deployed to the region in the months to come, on standby for NATO orders.

But Canada’s shipments of lethal aid to Ukraine were slow to come in the view of the Conservatives, and the Ukrainian Canadian community.

And suddenly Western allies are eyeing each other’s defence commitments.

At the Downing Street news conference, Rutte noted the Netherlands will increase its defence budget to close to two per cent of GDP. Germany has led the G7, and doubled its defence budget in the face of Putin’s invasion and threats. Johnson said the U.K. defence spending is about 2.4 per cent and declined to comment on Canada’s defence spending which is 1.4 per cent of GDP.

But Johnson didn’t hold back.

“What we can’t do, post the invasion of Ukraine is assume that we go back to a kind of status quo ante, a kind of new normalization in the way that we did after the … seizure of Crimea and the Donbas area,” Johnson said. “We’ve got to recognize that things have changed and that we need a new focus on security and I think that that is kind of increasingly understood by everybody.”

Trudeau stood by his British and Dutch counterparts and pledged Canada would do more.

He defended his government’s record, saying Ottawa is gradually increasing spending over the next decade by 70 per cent. Then Trudeau admitted more might be necessary.

“We also recognize that context is changing rapidly around the world and we need to make sure that women and men have certainty and our forces have all the equipment necessary to be able to stand strongly as we always have. As members of NATO. We will continue to look at what more we can do.”

The three leaders — Johnson, a conservative and Trudeau and Rutte, progressive liberals — in a joint statement said they “will continue to impose severe costs on Russia.”

Arriving for the news conference from Windsor Castle, Trudeau had to detour to enter Downing Street as loud so-called Freedom Convoy protesters bellowed from outside the gate. They carried signs marked “Tuck Frudeau” and “Free Tamara” (Lich).

Protester Jeff Wyatt who said he has no Canadian ties told the Star he came to stand up for Lich and others who were leading a “peaceful protest” worldwide against government “lies” about COVID-19 and what he called Trudeau’s “tyranny.”

Elsewhere in London, outside the Russian embassy, other protesters and passersby reflected on what they said was real tyranny — the Russian attack on Ukraine. “I think we should be as tough as possible to get this stopped, as tough as possible,” said protester Clive Martinez.
 
lol, we don't have multiple crews per hull, we have multiple hulls per crew.
Considering how long it takes to build ships, that almost sounds like an idea for having a navy that can expand rapidly in emergencies - provided the ships are run often enough.
 
65 Billion CAD$.
Never. Gonna. Happen.

Canadian oil and gas exports rose significantly in 2022 and show little sign of abating despite a call by Canada’s minister of environment and climate change to ‘phase-out unabated fossil fuels.’

Total exports in Canada rose 22.5 per cent in 2022, representing an increase of more than $142 billion, says a recent Statistics Canada report. Over half the increase – $76.9 billion – was driven by a major uptick in oil and gas exports. The share of energy products as a proportion of total exports rose from 21.2 per cent in 2021 to 27.2 per cent in 2022.


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Japan is the largest LNG buyer in the world, importing approximately 77 million (77,327,079) tons in 2019, down 6.6 % (tons) from 2018. Its import dollar value in 2019 was approximately $39.8 billion (4.4 trillion yen) and shares approximately 23.4% of the world's net LNG imports (330 million tons ≈ 467.9 Bcm³).

We need to find another 40 BCAD in revenue annually.

That is equivalent to the Japanese annual LNG market.
It is also something like one month of Europe's energy buy on the open market.

In 2022 our oil and gas exports increased by 76 BCAD, the increase alone in that year, when there was no business case for pipelines, was double what our defence increase needs to be.

....

We have people that want us to spend money on defence. Those same people want to give us money for fuel.

Sell fuel. Get money. Spend money. Buy defence.

Sell fuel and buy guns.

Niema problema.
 
How many sentences in the 16 Apr Budget document will mention DND?

Would not be surprised if the DND budget holds the line or gets another cut.

27 Feb 24:

Trudeau says Canada pledges to ‘do more’ on NATO spending | Power Play with Vassy Kapelos

 
Mixed, maybe, but surely not all. The US seems to profit by putting good NCOs in recruiting.
And I didn’t say recruiters or MCC. Just the back office admin. You could maybe have one CAF clerk at most and fill it with CR4s.

NCOs should remain as recruiters as should officers in MCC roles. Or just go back to MCCRs.

Again, just a an example provided as asked for.
 

BELFAST — Norway will double its military budget over the next 12 years by increasing spending by 600 billion NOK ($56 billion), part of a “historic” new defense plan announced today by Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre that prioritises heavy investment in new frigates and submarines to push back against Russian maritime influence in the High North and Atlantic Ocean.


at least five new frigates, accompanied by anti-submarine helicopters. Norway’s subsurface fleet will also be boosted by procurement of five new submarines, at a minimum.

In practice, this would mean acquisition of another Type 212CD vessel, with four of the German-designed subs already on order. The fleet are part of a joint German-Norwegian program, in partnership with shipbuilder ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems. A first Norwegian sub underwent construction at the company’s Kiel yard in September last year.

In both cases relating to frigates and submarines, the proposed hull count of five sits below the six recommended by Norway’s Chief of Defence, Gen. Eirik Kristoffersen, in a “Military Advice” report published last year. The plan still strongly aligns with his support for the elimination of structural armed force weaknesses, maritime surface improvements, an uplift in air defense capabilities and long range precision fires.

So stop me if we have heard this one.

Northern nation seeks ice capable ships for Coast Guard, frigates, submarines, GBAD and Long Range Precision Fires.
 
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Class overview
General characteristics
BuildersThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS)
Operators
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    Royal Norwegian Navy
  • 23px-Naval_Ensign_of_Germany.svg.png
    German Navy
Preceded by
Planned6 (4 for Norway, 2 for Germany)
On order6
Building1
TypeSubmarine
Displacement2,500 t (2,500 long tons) surfaced
Length73 m (239 ft 6 in)
Beam10 m (32 ft 10 in)
Draught7 m (23 ft 0 in)
PropulsionAir-independent propulsion, two MTU diesel engines[1]
Speedmore than 20 knots (37 km/h; 23 mph)
Complement?
Sensors and
processing systems
  • Optical sensors:
    • OMS 150 and 300 optronics masts
    • i360°OS panoramic surveillance system
  • Sonar:
    • SA9510S MkII for mine avoidance and navigation
    • EM2040 Mil and EA640 echosounders for sea bed navigation.[2]
Armament4 × 533 mm (21.0 in) torpedo tubes, DM2A4 IDAS
 
Further to the value of pumping oil and gas....

More supply yields lower prices, lower prices yield lower inflation.

The Fed, like the Bank of England, has a target of 2pc for inflation. Yet US inflation has not been below 2pc since February 2021. As of February 2024, inflation stands at 3.2pc, higher than it was in June 2023 when it bottomed out at 3pc.

So-called “sticky price” inflation less food and energy – a key metric the Fed has been watching to make sure the inflationary vampire will stay in the grave – was at 4.4pc in February 2024. Back in February 2021, this measure was at 1.4pc.

This has been a dangerous game for the Fed. After all, its credibility is currently at an all-time low after it missed the inflation to begin with, and even once the threat was apparent members thought it was “transitory”. With the Fed signalling rate cuts for four months while the actual data continued to show inflation above target, the central bank was betting the farm that it would fall.

Now, however, it appears that the Fed will have to throw in the towel. Oil prices are rising sharply. Brent oil currently stands at over $90 a barrel, up from just over $73 a barrel in mid-December around the time the Fed started priming the market for rate cuts.


A recent paper led by former treasury of the secretary Larry Summers has helped clear up the discrepancy. Summers and his co-authors show that if we adjust American inflation data to consider changes in methodology that have taken place over the past few decades, we see inflation not peaking at 9pc, as the official data indicates, but rather at 18pc. The paper also suggests that inflation measured in line with historical norms would have been 8pc at the end of 2023, not the 3pc shown in the official statistics.

This explains why the average American voter is angry at Biden about the economy: prices are still rising at a rapid clip and living standards have been substantially eroded under his administration.

We all live in America's world. And the Americans are experiencing inflation twice that reported and 4 to 9 times the Upper Control Limit of the target range.
 
Meanwhile, in Norway ;)


Norway plans $56 billion defence boost to counter Russia​


Norway plans to raise its military spending by an accumulated 600 billion crowns ($56 billion) through 2036 to bolster its defence against Russia and other security challenges, the NATO member country's government said on Friday.

Overall military spending for the next 12 years is expected to amount to 1.62 trillion crowns, it said.

"This plan represents a historic boost in defence spending, and involves a significant strengthening of all branches of the armed forces," Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere told a press conference.

 
Meanwhile, in Norway ;)
Norway, like most of the European countries that were invaded during the Second World War, have a long memory and took great lengths to remind their children of the plight they experienced under occupation. Its also why they are very quick to open the coffers to rearm and get ready to fight, because the alternative is much worse.

Canada hasn't had to learn that lesson, and thus here we are cutting defence spending while the world rearms and gets more dangerous.
 
Norway, like most of the European countries that were invaded during the Second World War, have a long memory and took great lengths to remind their children of the plight they experienced under occupation. Its also why they are very quick to open the coffers to rearm and get ready to fight, because the alternative is much worse.

Canada hasn't had to learn that lesson, and thus here we are cutting defence spending while the world rearms and gets more dangerous.
You sir speak wisely.

A wise Jedi you are. (Yoda said this, not me)

In 1996 I had the good fortune to down several beers with a German captain who said "Russia is too close".
 
Then why put soldiers and sailors in what are essentially civilian functions?

Because sailors and soldiers need positions to establish a work life balance, and those same folks need to develop trades skills that can only be attained at a level behind the Bn OR, QM ect.

For CSS folks an understanding of lines behind 1st and how they work is intimately important.
 
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Mixed, maybe, but surely not all. The US seems to profit by putting good NCOs in recruiting.
I think each service does it differently (surprise surprise) but I’ve talked to a USMC assistant recruiter (they have folks who help out sometimes) and the main recruiters have a minimum quota.

That gives them a huge incentive to get people in the door, but also has negative effects.
 
I think each service does it differently (surprise surprise) but I’ve talked to a USMC assistant recruiter (they have folks who help out sometimes) and the main recruiters have a minimum quota.

That gives them a huge incentive to get people in the door, but also has negative effects.

The elephant has entered the room ;)

Understanding the steady and troubling decline in the average intelligence of Marine Corps officers​



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Considering how long it takes to build ships, that almost sounds like an idea for having a navy that can expand rapidly in emergencies - provided the ships are run often enough.
If the ships are run and maintained; for context in the last year we've had two ships flood alongside with no crew onboard after they were mothballed due to lack of people. When pipes fail outside of machinery spaces there is no detection fitted to pick that up, and a few tonnes of water up high enough is really bad. People are aware of that but nothing has actually been done to address it, and now they want to have more ships with no duty watch onboard.

Our ships that are run have a lot of single digit percentage maintenance completion rates (because it takes people and time to maintain things), which is down to in a lot of cases maintenance not being done for long enough that when they go to to preventative maintenance there is a lot of corrective maintenance instead.

We don't even meet our own low standards for 'safe at sea' equipment and maintenance for ships that get deployed to HR deployments, and that's with robbing the standard and low readiness ships to try and get them out the door.

The TL:DR version is we are spread way to thin, with things too broken to keep doing everything, even with more money. It's past the point of bandaid though, and with the impact of the budget cuts if we don't start divesting ships early and reducing the actual size of the fleet we'll just keep death spiralling.

Best case a few ships 'self retire' without hurting or killing people, because the institution is too stupid to call uncle. That's basically what happened with the 280s and tankers (althought there were few career ending injuries prior to the final straws, along with a lot of people with issues from the mold).

For all the stories that do make the news, the reality is worse, and frankly the ships are probably a liability on real operations as the RCN's 'risk based approach' is just to bet the house that nothing actually happens. If we applied the lower commercial safety standards, most of the fleet wouldn't be allowed to leave the walls under TC rules, and that's with the extra combatant capabilities built into the design. They don't matter if they don't work and the people don't mitigate it if we're in skeleton crews..
 
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