Political impacts of Ukraine war

[Kirkhill]

7:29PM

Ukrainian politicians back up Zelensky​

Ukraine’s prime minister and parliament speaker expressed support for President Volodymyr Zelensky after his clash with Donald Trump.

“President @ZelenskyyUa is right. Peace without guarantees is not possible,” PM Denys Shmyhal said on X.

Ruslan Stefanchuk, the speaker, added: “NO ONE has the right to forget that in this war Russia is the aggressor and Ukraine is the victim of aggression”.

 

[Kirkhill]

But this isn't going to help. Understandable as it might be.

7:31PM

Zelensky trolls Trump over demand for gratitude​

https://twitter.com/x/status/1895555315716014324

 

[Czech_pivo]

According to CNN, Zelenskyy was ordered out of the White House and told to leave the country immediately.

I bet King Charles is regretting his official state visit right about now.....

 

[Kirkhill]

Oh my god. We are definitely living above a meth lab.

Well, I strongly recommend not lighting a match.

Fortunately Trump himself has started us in the right direction. Good fences make good neighbours.

But, if we were to strike a spark, might as well make it a big one...

SWIFT - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

On 20 March 2023, Russia was banned from SWIFT.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Look up what happened to the people of Melos…

 

[Czech_pivo]

Kevin? Where's Kevin?

 

[RangerRay]

Kevin? Where's Kevin?

He’s stocking up on ammo and non-perishable food.

 

[HavokFour]

Oh boy, here we go. Full mask off.

State Department terminates U.S. support of Ukraine energy grid restoration

The USAID initiative had invested hundreds of millions of dollars in helping Ukraine's energy grid recover from attacks from Russia.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[GR66]

He’s stocking up on ammo and non-perishable food.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Whelp... I guess Russia's gonna win...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1895566669281636846

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

The exchange Zelensky had with Trump and Vance in the oval office was wild.

 

[JLB50]

The exchange Zelensky had with Trump and Vance in the oval office was wild.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like it. Sad to see how much America has degraded itself.

 

[Brad Sallows]

When you go to the WH as an approximate supplicant, wear a suit and hold your own temper in check no matter what happens.

In the choice between pig-wrestling with a notoriously volatile and obnoxious person or taking the high road, so many people keep choosing the former.

 

[Remius]

When you go to the WH as an approximate supplicant, wear a suit and hold your own temper in check no matter what happens.

Musk set the tone wit no suits in the White House.

Zelensky clearly didn’t see himself as a supplicant.

Vance started the temper tantrum to a very reasonable question brought on by him. He should have kept quiet.

In the choice between pig-wrestling with a notoriously volatile and obnoxious person or taking the high road, so many people keep choosing the former.

High road means nothing these days.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Musk set the tone wit no suits in the White House.

Musk isn't a foreign visitor.

Zelensky clearly didn’t see himself as a supplicant.

Not a very effective leader if he can't see when his ego ought be set aside, and do so.

Vance started the temper tantrum to a very reasonable question brought on by him. He should have kept quiet.

It doesn't matter who started it, and my advice implicitly assumes that Trump and his people are likely to be the first to breach civility.

High road means nothing these days.

It means everything. How many years of witnessing Trump's behaviour is necessary for the people who think of themselves as "adults" to grasp the lesson and behave as that which they claim.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Zelensky could have shown up in white tie and tails and still been treated like shit.
I'm surprised he wasn't told to come in through the servants entrance and handed a pair of knee pads and a bottle of mouthwash.

 

[Remius]

Musk isn't a foreign visitor.

Not a very effective leader if he can't see when his ego ought be set aside, and do so.

It doesn't matter who started it, and my advice implicitly assumes that Trump and his people are likely to be the first to breach civility.

It means everything. How many years of witnessing Trump's behaviour is necessary for the people who think of themselves as "adults" to grasp the lesson and behave as that which they claim.

I fully expect apologists to make this Zelensky’s fault. But the video doesn’t lie nor do the comments they made that shows us what this is all about.

We’ve tried the high road ourselves and we are still getting tariffs and threats of annexation. It. does. Not. Matter.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Zelensky could have shown up in white tie and tails and still been treated like shit.
I'm surprised he wasn't told to come in through the servants entrance and handed a pair of knee pads and a bottle of mouthwash.

But he wasn't. The discussion took place in the Oval Office. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut when provoked and smile or give an accepting nod of the head if he couldn't find some diplomatic words to utter, unless he really didn't want the deal that was nearing completion.

People are trying to excuse Zelensky's blunder. They shouldn't. If Trump (or Vance, or anyone else) behaves offensively, don't return in kind, even from the floor of your own legislature, unless you don't want anything from them for the next few years.

 

[Brad Sallows]

I fully expect apologists to make this Zelensky’s fault.

These two things can be (are) true:
1. Trump and Vance were rude.
2. Zelensky f*cked up.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

The exchange Zelensky had with Trump and Vance in the oval office was wild.

I think what we saw is exactly what happens during talks like this. The public just never gets to see it. Vehement disagreement and emotion are human nature and are going to happen. Especially with everyone involved is an Alpha male.

Trump is trying hard to have a totally transparent government. Perhaps he just learned what that really means.