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Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

Who would want to lead this Mary Rose of a ship?
There is no Provincial Liberal party west of Sault Ste Marie, and its on life support everywhere else save for the Atlantic Provinces. The cult of Trudeau will be the end of the LPC as it marches towards the dustbin of history.
 
With the CPC more center than anything, there really is no point in a federal LPC party anymore. Maybe the next leader can detach the party from socialist NDP policies which, as we've seen, have a been a complete disaster for the country. Socialism never works.
 
Quirky said:
With the CPC more center than anything, there really is no point in a federal LPC party anymore. Maybe the next leader can detach the party from socialist NDP policies which, as we've seen, have a been a complete disaster for the country. Socialism never works.
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The CPC would have been more centre with O’Toole. Poilievre has been trying to court the social conservatives - example being the whole “warrior vs woke” remarks about the CAF.

Those remarks weren’t for serving members - we are not a large enough voting bloc for any party to care about, or else the CAF wouldn’t be in the state that it is. Those remarks were for the social conservative leaning folks in Canada.
 
FSTO said:
Who would want to lead this Mary Rose of a ship?
There is no Provincial Liberal party west of Sault Ste Marie, and its on life support everywhere else save for the Atlantic Provinces. The cult of Trudeau will be the end of the LPC as it marches towards the dustbin of history.
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Probably not, but a spell in the wilderness is always good for a party that needs a solid reset...
 
ModlrMike said:
CBC headline this morning. It will be interesting to say the least:

Trudeau to announce he's stepping down as Liberal leader: sources​

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Believe it when I hear it - we've heard variations on this theme before - but still ....
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While we wait, Hardcore Team Red polling/data analyst lays out what she wants to see in a replacement ....
relaywithkyla.beehiiv.com

4 things I’m looking for in the next (?) Liberal leader

If we have a next Liberal leader...
relaywithkyla.beehiiv.com relaywithkyla.beehiiv.com
Summary of her big four:
  • WAY separate & distant from Trudeau (me: is this even possible now?)
  • "Poilievre contrast" (pick on PP's weaknesses, and neutralize his weaknesses)
  • "the next leader should be seen to be experienced on (the economy and the incoming Trump administration)"
  • "Political capacity" (able to communicate, organize, politic, campaign and win, with a "French and regional foothold"
And what if he decides to prorogue?
"Expect a court challenge if Justin Trudeau puts Parliament on pause"
 
dimsum said:
The CPC would have been more centre with O’Toole. Poilievre has been trying to court the social conservatives - example being the whole “warrior vs woke” remarks about the CAF.

Those remarks weren’t for serving members - we are not a large enough voting bloc for any party to care about, or else the CAF wouldn’t be in the state that it is. Those remarks were for the social conservative leaning folks in Canada.
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I didn't mention the CAF at all in my comment, not sure why you went that direction.
 
dimsum said:
The CPC would have been more centre with O’Toole. Poilievre has been trying to court the social conservatives - example being the whole “warrior vs woke” remarks about the CAF.

Those remarks weren’t for serving members - we are not a large enough voting bloc for any party to care about, or else the CAF wouldn’t be in the state that it is. Those remarks were for the social conservative leaning folks in Canada.
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I think you are wildly off the mark here. For example "woke vs warrior" is not a social conservative remark. It is a common sense remark. O'Toole was a fence sitter. PP stands for common sense, hence his historic polling numbers.
 
Quirky said:
I didn't mention the CAF at all in my comment, not sure why you went that direction.
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He used an example showing the shift to the right in response to your statement about the CPC being more centrist.
 
QV said:
I think you are wildly off the mark here. For example "woke vs warrior" is not a social conservative remark. It is a common sense remark. O'Toole was a fence sitter. PP stands for common sense, hence his historic polling numbers.
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Historic polling numbers are due to an unpopular 10 year government.
 
Remius said:
Historic polling numbers are due to an unpopular 10 year government.
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Right... because the LPC is absolute shit and everything they have done and want to do is garbage. It's not even a close game.
 
Some in the blue Liberal camp tout former BC Liberal premier, Christy Clark.

For me, I have three words to describe her: Liberal Sarah Palin.

She does have many strengths to those outside of BC who don’t know her. She’s very telegenic and is an awesome campaigner. She is seen as a “business-friendly” Liberal and she’s an outsider; she has nothing to do with the current wrecking crew in Ottawa.

If she’s out campaigning, yucking it up with construction and factory workers in her pumps and hard hat in Ontario, she may be a formidable opponent for the Tories. Although she’s educated at SFU and the Sorbonne, she can do her “g’s” like any Joe Lunchbucket blue-collar worker.

She may not do well in BC. People there don’t remember her fondly. She did as well as she did because she wasn’t NDP.

Her biggest weakness is her French is not good, which has been a stumbling block to any British Columbian seeking higher office. But apparently she’s been talking lessons.

If the LPC get someone like her, PP will really have to up his game.
 
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