Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[Czech_pivo]

I don’t disagree with the sentiment to some degree, but any state investment in private industry needs to be 100% transparently verified as not having any linkage whatsoever to adversarial influence. It can’t look like a good idea on the surface and have ties back through a chain of discrete paths to another state intent on controlling Canadian industrial expertise. I think there is reasonable enough grounds in the cases of Norte and RIM, that Canadians are justified in not being so quick to celebrate statements of intent to invest/increase influence of key industrial/technological elements of Canadian business.

In the case of Nortel, they might still be around today if the Canadian government had taken a bit less of a 'hands off' approach with them and the ultimate Chinese role in their demise. Many, many a European/Asian and yes, American government have intervened in championing national firms and their economic wellbeing. It goes against ALOT of my business sense in saying that, but sometimes the 'state' needs to ensure that their various champions live to fight another day.

 

[IKnowNothing]

I think calling Klaus Schwabb a Nazi is a bit much. The mans' been awarded a prestigious prize by Israel in the past. What information made you come up with that label for him? If you are referring to his father - how is this different than Freeland and her Grandfather? Its been pointed out here that a child should not be held accountable for the sins of their father/grandfather.

The same sources that have taken a book identifying that the 4th industrial revolution was happening/about to happen, dispassionately discussing some of the potential societal impacts (good and bad) and advocating for whole of society involvement to try and shape things so that we don't get swept away and left with the bad outweighing the good and re-framed it for the gullible as an "anti-human" agenda initiated by a Nazi- aka the people that don't want the discussion happening.

There's a laundry list of reasons to be critical of WEF as an organization, but the transparent disinformation campaign aimed specifically at demonizing what amounts to someone waiving a yellow flag about where tech may take society is another -very concerning- thing entirely.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Did you see him with John Stewart last night?

I think he will do fine in a debate. A debate is very different than a formulaic Q Period tit for tat.

There is also the fact that he has held actual positions of responsibility and authority, and run very large institutions.....

As opposed to a part time drama teacher and snow board instructor ?

 

[Czech_pivo]

The same sources that have taken a book identifying that the 4th industrial revolution was happening/about to happen, dispassionately discussing some of the potential societal impacts (good and bad) and advocating for whole of society involvement to try and shape things so that we don't get swept away and left with the bad outweighing the good and re-framed it for the gullible as an "anti-human" agenda initiated by a Nazi- aka the people that don't want the discussion happening.

There's a laundry list of reasons to be critical of WEF as an organization, but the transparent disinformation campaign aimed specifically at demonizing what amounts to someone waiving a yellow flag about where tech may take society is another -very concerning- thing entirely.

This sounds an awful lot like a bunch of words put together that when analyzed have no real meaning.

My question was, what evidence/proof/sources can be referenced when saying Klaus Schwabb is a 'Nazi'.

Please leave out the Tin Foil Hat beliefs about the WEF, park them next to the beliefs about the Masons, the Illuminati, that Man walked with the Dinosaurs and that Aliens built the Pyramids.

 

[dimsum]

As opposed to a part time drama teacher and snow board instructor ?

last I checked, Trudeau is not in the running anymore.

 

[Halifax Tar]

last I checked, Trudeau is not in the running anymore.

That was more about this experience in a big organization environment being suddenly valuable to be the leader of the LPC.

I can't wait to vote in this, and I am super proud to be a member of the LPC.

 

[QV]

So I do admit, he is a lot more charismatic & charming than I expected. I hadn't seen him in a casual interview setting before.

But Trudeau was quite charismatic & likeable too, and look how he's turned out...


Bottom line - Carney is a huge champion of the carbon tax, opposes CANADIAN pipelines being built, openly states in the interview with Jon Stewart that he's basically against the oil & gas industry, and is a huge proponent of The Fourth Industrial Revolution (a very anti-human agenda first published by no other than the world's most high profile Nazi, Klaus Shwabb)

He's a high ranking member of the WEF, is connected to Chrystia Freeland in some pretty close ways (Godfather to her kids I believe?) and is basically a WEF globalist hack who will continue the path that Trudeau & Freeland have sent us down.

......

Remember folks, within 48 hours of being appointed to lead an economic task force (in which he is the only person on the task force) he promptly arranged for a $2 billion dollar loan to his buddy who owns Telesat.

He also suggested the country pay him $10 billion to run our pension funds for us.

Allow me to make a small amendment to your post. He is for pipelines, just not Canadian ones. Stellar PM he'd be.

 

[IKnowNothing]

This sounds an awful lot like a bunch of words put together that when analyzed have no real meaning.

My question was, what evidence/proof/sources can be referenced when saying Klaus Schwabb is a 'Nazi'.

And the answer is - none, because he's not. He's the son of mid-tier german industrialist who went through successful post-war de-Nazification screening. Just like Soros is a child holocaust survivor- not a Nazi bounty hunter.

Read it again- but assume that I'm mocking the conspiracy rather than defending it.

 

[dimsum]

That was more about this experience in a big organization environment being suddenly valuable to be the leader of the LPC.

I can't wait to vote in this, and I am super proud to be a member of the LPC.

I would argue that the angle he would use (and he already said it in the Jon Stewart interview) is that he is running as an outsider, with no historical ties to politics.

 

[daftandbarmy]

That was more about this experience in a big organization environment being suddenly valuable to be the leader of the LPC.

I can't wait to vote in this, and I am super proud to be a member of the LPC.

Make the LPC normal again!

 

[Halifax Tar]

Make the LPC normal again!

That's my hope!

 

[YZT580]

I would argue that the angle he would use (and he already said it in the Jon Stewart interview) is that he is running as an outsider, with no historical ties to politics.

My question: is he willing to stick around after the election as leader of a rump party and endure the pains of re-building a centrist party from scratch which would have to include divesting itself of the considerable amount of baggage, admit to the corruption within the current party and take steps to prevent it from re-establishing itself or is he simply trying to add prime minister of a G-7 country to his resume in order to facilitate his next career choice?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I would argue that the angle he would use (and he already said it in the Jon Stewart interview) is that he is running as an outsider, with no historical ties to politics.

He wouldn't have got where he is without politics.

 

[Baloo]

He wouldn't have got where he is without politics.

Are you talking about after he worked for Goldman Sachs?

 

[Remius]

My question: is he willing to stick around after the election as leader of a rump party and endure the pains of re-building a centrist party from scratch which would have to include divesting itself of the considerable amount of baggage, admit to the corruption within the current party and take steps to prevent it from re-establishing itself or is he simply trying to add prime minister of a G-7 country to his resume in order to facilitate his next career choice?

Depends by how much he would lose by. Anything short of official opposition in a minority situation will be the kiss of death for any leader.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Decent take on the fall of Justin Trudeau

 

[YZT580]

Depends by how much he would lose by. Anything short of official opposition in a minority situation will be the kiss of death for any leader.

assuming he is chosen, he will de facto be the 24th Canadian Prime Minister regardless of whether he is ever elected

 

[dimsum]

He wouldn't have got where he is without politics.

Sure, but he is not a politician. The closest was his time (in Canada) as the head of the Bank of Canada.

That’s maybe not a total arms-length, but it’s not like he was elected as an MP or whatever.

 

[The Bread Guy]

He wouldn't have got where he is without politics.

Even if he's dealt with politicians, organizational politics =/= electoral politics.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Whelp, so much for those 'sunny ways'...

With clock ticking, future of Liberals' dental and pharmacare programs uncertain​

Majority of dental plan still not in place, no deals reached for drug coverage​

Two-thirds of the Canadians set to be covered under the new national dental insurance program are still not eligible. The federal government has also yet to sign a single deal with provinces and territories enabling Ottawa to pay for contraceptive and diabetes medications.

"Nothing is guaranteed. We're in a volatile circumstance," federal Health Minister Mark Holland acknowledged last week.

"I will be relentless in making sure that we finish," he said. "I don't think we need a lot of time to do it. We need a little bit more."

But time is running out for Holland to see the two programs through, with the three major opposition parties vowing to bring down the Liberal government with a confidence vote as early as March, triggering a federal election.

That includes the NDP — who pushed the government to bring in both programs — but now says the Liberals' time is up.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/future-of-dental-pharmacare-expansion-liberal-government-1.7430667