Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[Halifax Tar]

Did you see him with John Stewart last night?

I think he will do fine in a debate. A debate is very different than a formulaic Q Period tit for tat.

There is also the fact that he has held actual positions of responsibility and authority, and run very large institutions.....

As opposed to a part time drama teacher and snow board instructor ?

 

[Czech_pivo]

The same sources that have taken a book identifying that the 4th industrial revolution was happening/about to happen, dispassionately discussing some of the potential societal impacts (good and bad) and advocating for whole of society involvement to try and shape things so that we don't get swept away and left with the bad outweighing the good and re-framed it for the gullible as an "anti-human" agenda initiated by a Nazi- aka the people that don't want the discussion happening.

There's a laundry list of reasons to be critical of WEF as an organization, but the transparent disinformation campaign aimed specifically at demonizing what amounts to someone waiving a yellow flag about where tech may take society is another -very concerning- thing entirely.

This sounds an awful lot like a bunch of words put together that when analyzed have no real meaning.

My question was, what evidence/proof/sources can be referenced when saying Klaus Schwabb is a 'Nazi'.

Please leave out the Tin Foil Hat beliefs about the WEF, park them next to the beliefs about the Masons, the Illuminati, that Man walked with the Dinosaurs and that Aliens built the Pyramids.

 

[dimsum]

As opposed to a part time drama teacher and snow board instructor ?

last I checked, Trudeau is not in the running anymore.

 

[Halifax Tar]

last I checked, Trudeau is not in the running anymore.

That was more about this experience in a big organization environment being suddenly valuable to be the leader of the LPC.

I can't wait to vote in this, and I am super proud to be a member of the LPC.

 

[QV]

So I do admit, he is a lot more charismatic & charming than I expected. I hadn't seen him in a casual interview setting before.

But Trudeau was quite charismatic & likeable too, and look how he's turned out...


Bottom line - Carney is a huge champion of the carbon tax, opposes CANADIAN pipelines being built, openly states in the interview with Jon Stewart that he's basically against the oil & gas industry, and is a huge proponent of The Fourth Industrial Revolution (a very anti-human agenda first published by no other than the world's most high profile Nazi, Klaus Shwabb)

He's a high ranking member of the WEF, is connected to Chrystia Freeland in some pretty close ways (Godfather to her kids I believe?) and is basically a WEF globalist hack who will continue the path that Trudeau & Freeland have sent us down.

......

Remember folks, within 48 hours of being appointed to lead an economic task force (in which he is the only person on the task force) he promptly arranged for a $2 billion dollar loan to his buddy who owns Telesat.

He also suggested the country pay him $10 billion to run our pension funds for us.

Allow me to make a small amendment to your post. He is for pipelines, just not Canadian ones. Stellar PM he'd be.

 

[IKnowNothing]

This sounds an awful lot like a bunch of words put together that when analyzed have no real meaning.

My question was, what evidence/proof/sources can be referenced when saying Klaus Schwabb is a 'Nazi'.

And the answer is - none, because he's not. He's the son of mid-tier german industrialist who went through successful post-war de-Nazification screening. Just like Soros is a child holocaust survivor- not a Nazi bounty hunter.

Read it again- but assume that I'm mocking the conspiracy rather than defending it.

 

[dimsum]

That was more about this experience in a big organization environment being suddenly valuable to be the leader of the LPC.

I can't wait to vote in this, and I am super proud to be a member of the LPC.

I would argue that the angle he would use (and he already said it in the Jon Stewart interview) is that he is running as an outsider, with no historical ties to politics.

 

[daftandbarmy]

That was more about this experience in a big organization environment being suddenly valuable to be the leader of the LPC.

I can't wait to vote in this, and I am super proud to be a member of the LPC.

Make the LPC normal again!

 

[Halifax Tar]

Make the LPC normal again!

That's my hope!

 

[YZT580]

I would argue that the angle he would use (and he already said it in the Jon Stewart interview) is that he is running as an outsider, with no historical ties to politics.

My question: is he willing to stick around after the election as leader of a rump party and endure the pains of re-building a centrist party from scratch which would have to include divesting itself of the considerable amount of baggage, admit to the corruption within the current party and take steps to prevent it from re-establishing itself or is he simply trying to add prime minister of a G-7 country to his resume in order to facilitate his next career choice?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I would argue that the angle he would use (and he already said it in the Jon Stewart interview) is that he is running as an outsider, with no historical ties to politics.

He wouldn't have got where he is without politics.

 

[Baloo]

He wouldn't have got where he is without politics.

Are you talking about after he worked for Goldman Sachs?

 

[Remius]

My question: is he willing to stick around after the election as leader of a rump party and endure the pains of re-building a centrist party from scratch which would have to include divesting itself of the considerable amount of baggage, admit to the corruption within the current party and take steps to prevent it from re-establishing itself or is he simply trying to add prime minister of a G-7 country to his resume in order to facilitate his next career choice?

Depends by how much he would lose by. Anything short of official opposition in a minority situation will be the kiss of death for any leader.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Decent take on the fall of Justin Trudeau

 

[YZT580]

Depends by how much he would lose by. Anything short of official opposition in a minority situation will be the kiss of death for any leader.

assuming he is chosen, he will de facto be the 24th Canadian Prime Minister regardless of whether he is ever elected

 

[dimsum]

He wouldn't have got where he is without politics.

Sure, but he is not a politician. The closest was his time (in Canada) as the head of the Bank of Canada.

That’s maybe not a total arms-length, but it’s not like he was elected as an MP or whatever.

 

[The Bread Guy]

He wouldn't have got where he is without politics.

Even if he's dealt with politicians, organizational politics =/= electoral politics.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Whelp, so much for those 'sunny ways'...

With clock ticking, future of Liberals' dental and pharmacare programs uncertain​

Majority of dental plan still not in place, no deals reached for drug coverage​

Two-thirds of the Canadians set to be covered under the new national dental insurance program are still not eligible. The federal government has also yet to sign a single deal with provinces and territories enabling Ottawa to pay for contraceptive and diabetes medications.

"Nothing is guaranteed. We're in a volatile circumstance," federal Health Minister Mark Holland acknowledged last week.

"I will be relentless in making sure that we finish," he said. "I don't think we need a lot of time to do it. We need a little bit more."

But time is running out for Holland to see the two programs through, with the three major opposition parties vowing to bring down the Liberal government with a confidence vote as early as March, triggering a federal election.

That includes the NDP — who pushed the government to bring in both programs — but now says the Liberals' time is up.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/future-of-dental-pharmacare-expansion-liberal-government-1.7430667

 

[ModlrMike]

The first two polls following the PM's resignation are out, and the Torries are holding strong. Nanos and Leger polls (both rated A+) have:

Nanos (12 Jan) LPC 21 CPC 47 NDP 17 GPC 4 BQ 8 PPC 2
Leger (10 Jan) LPC 20 CPC 47 NDP 18 GPC 5 BQ 8 PPC 2

It will be interesting to see how the electorate responds. The race includes Jaime Battiste, Frank Baylis, Chandra Arya, with Chrystia Freeland, Mark Carney, Karina Gould, and Jonathan Wilkinson still a maybe. Five currently have seats in the HoC: Battiste, Arya, Gould, Wilkinson, and Freeland, where Carney and Baylis do not. If either of the last two get the nod, then either a by election will have to take place, or they fight it out in the predicted general election.

Problems for the Liberals:
Arya doesn't speak french;
Battiste has previously posted allegedly racist and and sexist comments to social media;
Baylis is the lead opponent of Bill 21 in Quebec that bans religious symbol wearing by public servants. The measure is very popular in QC, which may be a liability for him - the Liberals need to take QC to win where the CPC do not;
Freeland is annoying as stink, and would probably be seen as too close to Trudeau;
Carney is unknown to most of the electorate - staunch supporter of carbon tax;
Wilkinson doesn't speak french, staunch supporter of carbon tax;
Gould - dark horse, tied to the Yaroslav Hunka event, french skills unknown.

 

[Good2Golf]

Problems for the Liberals:
Arya doesn't speak french;
Battiste has previously posted allegedly racist and and sexist comments to social media;
Baylis is the lead opponent of Bill 21 in Quebec that bans religious symbol wearing by public servants. The measure is very popular in QC, which may be a liability for him - the Liberals need to take QC to win where the CPC do not;
Freeland is annoying as stink, and would probably be seen as too close to Trudeau;
Carney is unknown to most of the electorate - staunch supporter of carbon tax;
Wilkinson doesn't speak french, staunch supporter of carbon tax;
Gould - dark horse, tied to the Yaroslav Hunka event, french skills unknown.

Maybe they’d be better off with….


…Trudeau?