Justin Trudeau hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[QV]

Means nothing.

 

[Cloud Cover]

2% by 2032. No real plan on how we get there, but the "commitment" to do so is something, I suppose.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nato-canada-trudeau-1.7260649

It’s in the fine print at the bottom of the ad.

“Certain conditions apply. Ask your dealer for details. 2% of today’s GDP or 2% of 2032 GDP, whichever is lower. The difference is carbon taxable and will be added to the amount of water bed financing. This offer is not valid to Residents of Quebec or Atlantic Canadians with heat pumps less than 10 years old. British Columbia residents with pro-nouns will receive an extra take home Submariner at no extra cost. Alberta Residents and Boomers add 12% wealth surcharge.”

 

[Remius]

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100% pure hyperbolic speculation

Trump says Putin ‘was a friend of mine’ in bizarre phone conversation

‘I got along great with him,’ the former US president added

www.independent.co.uk

Meh. Trump has stated and bragged they have been friends. So not exactly speculation. May be hyperbolic on his part though.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Watch Trump get elected and broker a peace deal. That's going to be awkward as people try to explain why that's bad all of a sudden.

 

[Good2Golf]

Watch Trump get elected and broker a peace deal. That's going to be awkward as people try to explain why that's bad all of a sudden.

Trudeau would love that, because then Canada could become even more aspirationallier…

 

[dimsum]

Watch Trump get elected and broker a peace deal. That's going to be awkward as people try to explain why that's bad all of a sudden.

Depends on the terms. He could broker one, but the terms could be like the one recently floated - which might as well be called the “Russia wins” deal.

Russia to occupy "remaining Ukrainian lands" after ceasefire: Medvedev

The former Russian president implied that the war will continue "until the total destruction of any independent Ukraine."

www.newsweek.com

 

[Brad Sallows]

I'm not sure the highlighted bit is 100% accurate. I think then Prime Minister Harper said, in Wales, that 2% was an "aspirational goal."

Heck, as a teenager I used to aspire to date Brooke Shields. I see now that I was at least being relatively realistic.

 

[FJAG]

Watch Trump get elected and broker a peace deal. That's going to be awkward as people try to explain why that's bad all of a sudden.

Kinda like the Afghan peace deal. How'd that work out?

 

[dimsum]

Kinda like the Afghan peace deal. How'd that work out?

Obviously that was Biden’s doing.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Obviously that was Biden’s doing.

You're thinking they waited until Biden was elected then moved in? Me too.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Last I checked, Ukraine has no interest in a peace deal that doesn't seem it get back the land, and the EU and UK may ramp up their support if the US pulls out. It would be good to have some additional offset generally, and countries like Poland have zero interest in being a soft target for the next Russian 'liberation'.

 

[Kirkhill]

It will be a matter of a redline and if anyone blinks. If I were to guess today, soon after Trump assumes office there is a cease to hostilities with both sides holding firm. After negotiations (promises, offerings, blustering and threats of a bigger red button) Russian agrees to pulls back somewhat but not all the way. A UN patrolled zone of separation is established. Trudeau jumps at the chance to commit Canadian troops to a UN "peace keeping" mission, but Canada's participation is refused due to it's material support to war effort of one side.

The Panmunjeon solution. An undeclared end to an undeclared war. A new Iron Curtain.

 

[Czech_pivo]

The Panmunjeon solution. An undeclared end to an undeclared war. A new Iron Curtain.

Possible, but that would lead to a fractured Ukraine inside NATO and US/NATO troops stationed on sight.
Throw in the in track to join the EU and billions in EU grant money and within 20yrs the standard of living gap will be impossible to hide from Belarussians and Russians.

 

[FJAG]

You're thinking they waited until Biden was elected then moved in? Me too.

They were on the move long before that - but that's another thread entirely.

 

[MilEME09]

Means nothing.

Kinda means everything when you are trying to achieve peace. On top of this the russisn have declared every ukrainian government institution illegitimate defacto meaning they will not negotiate with who they say isn't thr government. There won't be any cease fire in Ukraine or negotiations as far as Russia is concerned and we need to be prepared for this conflict to not only go on but expand.

 

[OldSolduer]

You're thinking they waited until Biden was elected then moved in? Me too.

Not the first time an enemy of the US has used a crisis to make a sitting POTUS look bad.

Iran did it to Jimmy Carter - made him look weak and ineffective, and that got Reagan elected.

 

[Underway]

Watch Trump get elected and broker a peace deal. That's going to be awkward as people try to explain why that's bad all of a sudden.

A peace deal can be brokered right now. It won't come from the US if that does happen, it will come through Turkiye. Ukraine just has to give up on all of Donbas, Kherson, Crimea, etc...

So no it won't be awkward to explain, it will be easy to explain. Ukraine capitulates and Russia wins.

What the war has done is achieved a Trump stated goal, forced Europe to look after its own defence. The war can continue with less and less US materiel help (probably not without US intelligence help) within the next 6 months as EU ammo production increases and F-16's arrive.

 

[KevinB]

It will be a matter of a redline and if anyone blinks. If I were to guess today, soon after Trump assumes office there is a cease to hostilities with both sides holding firm. After negotiations (promises, offerings, blustering and threats of a bigger red button) Russian agrees to pulls back somewhat but not all the way. A UN patrolled zone of separation is established. Trudeau jumps at the chance to commit Canadian troops to a UN "peace keeping" mission, but Canada's participation is refused due to it's material support to war effort of one side.

Interesting theory.

The only issue with a UN patrolled zone is there are virtually no neutral countries in this.

 

[markppcli]

I see the LRPF project is progressing, testing how many rocket pods we can load on trucks.......I sense a HIMARS buy coming

https://twitter.com/x/status/1811476064973300160

Now we just need bodies to man them

 

[QV]

Kinda means everything when you are trying to achieve peace. On top of this the russisn have declared every ukrainian government institution illegitimate defacto meaning they will not negotiate with who they say isn't thr government. There won't be any cease fire in Ukraine or negotiations as far as Russia is concerned and we need to be prepared for this conflict to not only go on but expand.

Not sure you understand how one side pre-positions itself ahead of negotiations...